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Shinobi-san said:
RenCutypoison said:

I can understand how cis women can feel unsafe with a transwoman in the toilets. HOWEVER, do you realise how unsafe transwomen are in a toilet with cismen ?

If you weren't outed before the best way is to use your birth gender toilet. 

The whole trans toilets shit is out of control, litterally what everyone wants from a toilet is for it to be vacant, and surrounded by walls, trans or cis. Public toilets with multiple people in the same room suck for everyone.

@bolded absolutely and I don't have a perfect solution - neither does JK Rowling or anyone else really, but surely she has a right to voice her opinion on something she feels directly impacted on, without getting cancelled?

That being said my initial premise is based primarily on physical differences. Provided that a transwomen has not undergone any medical alterations, he/she is better equipped to handle an immediate physical threat, as is any biological man. I think we can all agree which is the more vulnerable biological gender given history. So it makes zero sense to me, when we are living in a world that is actively fighting GBV, to start adding in disclaimers that would literally allow anyone to walk into any bathroom. As of right now society by and large adheres to biological acceptance of who is allowed in which toilet - which at the very least creates some sense of safety for biological woman.

To your last sentence, perhaps this seems like a small thing to people who live in first world countries, but in third world countries it can rapidly devolve into a disaster mascarading behind "social justice". First world countries, perhaps have the luxury of coming of with decent solutions to this - adding additional bathrooms etc.

It didn't occur to me, that's a fair point.

However, the toilet argument is the least important and insteresting part of transgenderism. For trans' peeps, the biggest problem in toilets is fearing for your life, but it's kind of the same as anywhere else, in a more vulnerable and certainly uncomfortable way. But the problem is violent radical exclusive people in this case.

From my experience in workplaces, I mostly go to the toilet after I confirmed it's completely empty, and I use the least popular one (In my previous workplace, I loved the men's bathroom, there were 35 women for 4 men -including both bosses lol-). Some trans peeps avoid public toilets but for woman and amab nbs on anti-androgens it's pretty hard (you have to pee like, every 20 minutes, not that it changed anything for me). I have, every single time, been invited to use women's bathroom by my female coworkers. I have a lot of luck and everyone is supportive, and have never had any bad bathroom experiences.

Another problem is, women and queers are more likely to be physically abused. So queer women suffer from intersectionnality. Especially sex workers and PoC. And I think it's pretty sad for women and transwomen to fight like this, when they should help each other.