Phil Spencer confident after seeing PS5 presentation - Gamelab 2020 interview

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Ryuu96 said:

goopy20 said:

I don't understand. You're linking me a tweet that says developers will always target the lowest common denominator and you do so to make a point that Lockhart isn't holding back Series X...

If you look at the Xbox One X, which is around 4 times more powerful than the base Xone, do you feel developers were really able to tap into that extra compute power? Developes were all targeting the lowest common denominator (base consoles) which is why very little could be done on the X1X besides a bump in resolution and framerate. With X1X and ps4 Pro that was fine as they weren't marketed as next gen consoles, they were released half-way through the console generation and were designed to play the exact same games but in 4k and or a higher fps. 

With all this Lockhart talk, it sounds like MS is already releasing their "mid-gen" console and a $200, 4Tflops version will their base model. If you don't understand how terrible that is then I don't know what to tell you. It will be the first time in history that a next gen console will barely be an upgrade lol. Wouldn't it be loads better that we'll see Series X and ps5 targeted as the base console, and that we'll see more powerful mid-gen consoles later for those who think native 4k/60fps is an absolute must? 

That isn't what the tweet is saying at all, did you even read it?

to the “Lockhart will hold back next-gen” crowd:

• Lockhart CPU is faster than PS5
• Lockhart supports raytracing
• Game developers have been building PC titles for multiple GPUs for... decades

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— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) June 29, 2020

pretty much, ideally

— Tom Warren (@tomwarren) June 29, 2020

Yes, they were able to tap into the extra power as you even admitted in increases FPS and Resolution and no, not all developers target the base console, Playground Games were building with Xbox One X as the lead platform and porting down, no reason why Xbox's top studios don't also do that with Xbox Series X.

Lockhart will also have an SSD, it is very much a next gen console and likely won't hold back Series X all that much.

"Barely an upgrade"

Your concern trolling is getting boring Goopy.

Actually I'm just going to remove you from this thread, I don't trust your intentions at all given your mod history and given you've straight up twisted or lied about multiple things in the thread.

The problem was when zero and sales suggested Lockhart as the lead platform and where MS would concentrate their sales with Series X being just their premium console. If that was truly to happen then most games would more likely be designed to it and then improved for Series X, that could really lead to constrains in the scope for the game.