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LudicrousSpeed on 02 July 2020
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goopy20 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:

That wasn’t even gameplay. So who knows what we will actually see. But apparently you’re ok with the same mechanics we already have just more detailed graphics. Not sure why you’ve spent months worrying about Xbox then.

You’re entitled to the opinion that graphics are more important than frame rate. But present it as nothing more than your opinion, no need to spew nonsense about how “no one cares about 60fps” or “Phil Spencer thinks graphics aren’t improving”. 

You're taking everything I say way too literally. When I say nobody cares about 60fps then no, I don't mean there isn't a single person on the planet who doesn't care about it. All I'm saying is that developers stopped aiming for 60fps a long time ago as it turns out visual fidelity is more important for selling a game. Nobody Hardly anyone is going to base their purchase decisions by checking to see if a game is 60fps, they look at how well its made, how it plays and by the time they finished the game they probably won't even know if its 30- or 60fps. The only games were 60fps does become a selling point are online shooters, fighting and racing games.

Also, when I'm quoting Phil Spencer saying "The Xbox Series X will mainly use its expanded horsepower to improve load times and frame rates." Then no, I don't literally mean there won't be any visual upgrades at all. But you tell me what he's referring to when he says "And that might sound depressing to some"?

My point is that Phil is telling us to lower our expectations for next gen as the jump in visuals might not be as pronounced as before in the last console transition. While Sony is telling us the exact opposite and are talking about one of the biggest jumps in gaming history. Of course we need to see a lot more to determine who is right, but is it really so wrong for me to be more excited about what Sony's been saying (and showing) than to listen to Phil and lower my expectations?

I don't hate Xbox or come here to shit on it, I'm just excited about next gen. I expect both companies to sell it to me and blow me away. And not let me second guess if there's going to be a significant leap at all. Like I said, if they now completely blow me away in July, I'll take everything I've been raving about for months back and I'll be a happy man. But if so, then they sure have done a shitty job at promoting their next gen console leading up to the event.  

More nonsense, those that find 60fps appealing probably won’t even be able to tell the difference between it and 30. You just can’t help yourself but to spew nonsense to support your opinion lol.

Also Phil hasn’t been telling you not to expect a big graphics jump or to lower your expectations for next gen. Idk, I kind of think taking you at your word for what you post is not bad at all compared to you constantly taking quotes from Microsoft people and twisting their words and cherry picking lines out of context to suit the agenda you’ve been pushing for months.

Based on your past comments even if MS comes out with amazing stuff in July you’ll just be FUDing about how much better it would be if they weren’t designing games for potato PCs and porting up. No one has told you it’s wrong for you to be more excited about PS5 but you don’t need to spew nonsense to others about Xbox to convince us.