(POSSIBLE SPOILERS INSIDE) The agenda and political discussion of Naughty Dog

[DonFerrari]

padib said:

Hiku said:

That is the question I was asking, yeah.
So why do you think this scene happened at the point in time it did? Would it work the same way or better if it occurred later, in order to understand Abby? Why/why not?

Wanting the players to experience something specific with your writing can also be labeled as an agenda. May not be something nefarious, but still important to discuss when we bring up the story.

Also I don't know how much of the game you're familiar with. Have you experienced the full story?

I truly haven't, I watched a number of portions of the game, and I appreciated what I saw. But I did not play it myself.

Spoiler!

However when it comes to the way Joel was killed and what he had to do for it to happen, I feel like it's out of character for the protagonist of the first game, I feel like it was forced into the story. If it happened later, at least players would have appreciated playing as Joel for a bit longer. Also, if what happened was done at the hands of an antagonist that would have been very difficult to watch, but at least the players would not have to play as the character who did that vile thing. Still, it felt cheap and of course it had to be done at the hands of a girl, which makes it even nastier. You know, we saw Ned Stark die at the hands of Geoffrey Baratheon, that worked because Geoffrey was a piece of shit and it only made his character more detestable. But here, Abby is the protagonist of the game, and it felt like girl power being forced into yet another game, and I personally see through it and, while I'm not a fan of TLOU (though I respect the game), it makes me angry that this kind of thing is creeping into media and entertainment.

Spoiler!

I know that woman are lot less prone to violence and killing, but also are more prone to revenge than man. I didn't see any girl power just because you played as two female protagonists. Also the choice to play as the one that killed Joel is even better since it give more impact on understanding the person that killed him.

For me the only flaws I see in the plot is that Abby was dumb on planning and that she left things incomplete, generating easy reciprocication.