| sundin13 said: To your first point, I don't really see any point going into that. I think your statements say all that need to be said. Those who are "gender critical" are simply transphobes who deny all transgender individuals their identity. That is basically the entire point I was making. Thanks for making it easy, I guess. If you want someone to explain how it feels to be trans to you, you probably shouldn't be asking me as a cis-man. To the second, if we are to be concerned about women's feelings, why is it acceptable to have a masculine trans man in these spaces making them uncomfortable? If the issue was truly about the concerns and fears of women, why should it matter who exactly is causing them to be uncomfortable? Drawing an entirely arbitrary line here demonstrates to me that it is not about women's feelings of safety and concerns regarding how a woman might feel if a bearded individual walked into "their space", but instead just another lightly veiled means of denying trans identity and repressing trans individuals. |
I asked you because you're the one asserting that gender identity is a real thing that exists objectively, not me.
Gender critical is also a broad term that encompasses women like me who take a hard line on gender identity, but also others (like J.K. Rowling) who don't, but at the same time recognized the socio-political significance of biological sex. Gender critical feminists could be conservatives, liberals, or radical feminists. It's a broad term. It even includes some transsexual women.
On the question of transmen and women's shelters, it's worth pointing out that you are speaking to a rape survivor. My experience with this tells me that what women in situations like these fear a lot in that moment is having to oh say spend the night with man they don't know, or someone they perceive as a man. It's not very easy for a transman to pass for a biological male, but if she is pulling that off in a way that causes fear to someone, then yeah, I think that should be addressed. But that's more of a marginal, exceptional phenom we're talking about here. The real, larger issue here is actual men wanting access to these spaces, and I don't just mean transwomen. To the extent that we collectively agree to render the term "woman" a meaningless one that anyone can claim, more and more men will claim it, and I don't mean with sincerity of heart but rather for predatory purposes and other social advantages over women.
