Trumpstyle said:
We still don't know if face masks work, compare denmark, Norway and Finland to germany, they are mandating face masks in Germany while in the other scandinavian countries they are not mandating or recommending. I think Denmark, Norway and Finland has much better cases/capita than germany, although I read some stuff that Finland cheats (no indoor restaurants/bars) but germany cheats too, face masks mandated in churches and no singing. Finland, Denmark and Norway are also sending their kids to school, it's totally safe. As I wrote in a previous post, our finance minister said our courage level is at 90% and today she held another press conference saying things are looking more positive, we will have -6% gdp and 9% unemployment this year, this from her previous forecast of -7% gdp and 10% unemployment. I myself think we will only take a -3% gdp hit but depends on other countires, they must not do another lockdown. And combined this with falling daily reported deaths, things are just looking very good here in Sweden, ofc if you compare our numbers to other countries, maybe not so much. Your graph just looks great to me, feels like we Swedes are like barbarians, just charging right at the virus with no face masks :) nah we are just doing more testing, 20k in beginning of april and 60k last week. You can see for Stockholm county in beginning of June, the computer glitch adding 1.5k cases in Stockholm. It was hiding ~50-100 cases a day I think. It's because of the increase of testing I think the virus will be almost gone/eliminated in sweden next month, people who get sick will just test themself and if they positive for the virus, they will just isolate themself. |
I'll take that last part with a grain of salt lol. I'm afraid atm it looks like the daily reported deaths will be going up again for a while. If the stories from Gällivare are true, that it's getting as bad as Stockholm was, then it would follow that hospitalizations etc will be up again.
I don't think face masks do much either apart from slowing the spread a bit from people that are contagious. I'm pretty sure I'm not infected but I wear one anyway hoping to break to stigma against wearing face masks here. Today I went back to the chiropractor for the first time since March. They did improve their cleaning, new beds that get (quickly) wiped down after each patient, but none of the staff wore face masks and no distance markers or anything. It was quiet at least this morning. Plenty of hand sanitizer and washing my face as well afterwards (contact with the adjustment bed) and it should be fine. Quick in and out, not a lot of breathing in the recycled air inside.
Which is my problem with the minimal back to school changes. More cleaning and focusing on hand washing is only half of the equation. The virus is airborne (even from flushing the toilet) and remains infectious for 4 hours floating in the air. What I would expect from the schools is to cut classes in half, one week on, one week home schooling. Stagger the start and end times with multiple lower occupancy bus rides, different classes starting and ending at different times. Staggered lunch breaks as well. Install UV-C air filters in class rooms and an industrial one on the central air system. Check the temperature of students, preferably before they get on the bus, a bit of extra work for the bus driver, then another health check at the start of class. Staff has the weekend to look for any symptoms, check on Monday to start the next week with the other half of the students.
Not this, oh well, life has to go back to normal, just cover you cough and wash your hands and clean common surfaces. That doesn't address the transmission through air at all.
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