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goopy20 on 08 June 2020
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LudicrousSpeed said:
goopy20 said:

Like I said, next gen graphics should be self explanatory. If MS has to explain why Series X games are next gen because we need to feel 60fps, they're either doing a piss poor job promoting their next gen console or... they are not trying to push next gen gaming at all. Spoiler alert! They're not, because for the millionth time, they're running with a completely different strategy. They want every pc gamer to be able to play their games, no matter if you have a $3000 NASA super computer or you're playing games on a potato. It makes total sense when you look at how successful games like Minecraft and Fortnite are, but it's just not what people are typically expecting from a next gen console that's supposed to blow us away. This is why their event got the reactions it did, not because the games themselves looked terrible. 

Sony, on the other hand, is doing things the traditional way. They don't want people with potato pc's and current gen consoles to play ps5 games. Hell, their entire console is build around a SSD that's not even available on consumer pc's, and the UE5 demo was just a demonstration of that. It wasn't just a tech demo, it was the first glimpse of what next gen games should, and will look like according to Sony's vision. Which is not current gen games with just a bump in resolution and framerate like we're already seeing on pc and the mid-gen consoles.  

Not saying the early ps5 games are guaranteed to be awesome because of it, but there's no guarantee they will suck either. We'll just have to wait till Sony makes its first big move. However, it would be pretty weird if their ps5 exclusives won't take advantage of next gen features like their SSD. And because of that they should show a self explanatory leap over anything we've seen before. 

Now I'm not sure why you're calling me a pessimistic when everything I'm saying is coming straight from uncle Phil himself. MAybe you haven't been getting the notes, so just a recap here...

Microsoft doesn't care if you buy the next-generation Xbox

https://www.businessinsider.com/xbox-vs-playstation-microsoft-strategy-2020-5?international=true&r=US&IR=T

Microsoft’s Xbox boss says Amazon and Google are ‘the main competitors going forward’

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/5/21123956/microsoft-xbox-competitors-phil-spencer-cloud-gaming-amazon-google

All of our games… will play up and down that family of devices – Xbox’s Matt Booty ends the next-gen exclusive as we know it

https://www.mcvuk.com/business-news/we-need-to-deliver-on-the-promises-that-we-make-xbox-game-studios-matt-booty-on-the-future-of-xbox/

Phil Spencer says you might not appreciate how much better next-gen games are until you can "feel" the improvement that comes with 60 FPS.

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/xbox-series-x-phil-spencer-says-you-cant-even-appr/1100-6477747/

MS is putting themselves in a tricky situation if they're goal is to sell 100m Series X's and I'm pretty sure they are aware of that. But it's pretty obvious that's not their goal anyway. Their strategy is set and they're not going to change it now, even if they do get crap after showing their "optimized for Series X" games. If that was the case, they would have told us by now that games like Halo Infinite were designed specifically for Series X and they're outsourcing ports for the Xone versions running on older tech. That's what they did when Forza Horizon 2 was announced for the 360 and Xone and everyone was pissed it would be held back because it was a cross-gen title. 



You can window dress your interpretation of their strategy however you like but at the end of the day it’s still just your opinion and you’ve proven that it’s an opinion full of bias and nonsense. What is the point of linking interviews and articles when you take them out of context or ignore quotes in them? lol

And yeah the UE5 demo was just a demo. Just remember that while you’re incredibly hyped from it, the demo would be just as good or better on XSX. 

Gears Tactics won’t run on potato PCs and it’s the most recent PC title MS released. Flight Sim isn’t going to run on potato PCs. When you’re trying to compare MS PC titles to the scalability of titles like Fortnite or Minecraft, you’re just showcasing the typical ignorance you’ve become famous for in these threads.

I didn't misinterpret or taken anything out of context. I've literally just quoted headlines of what MS's been telling us for months. 

Gears Tactics system requirement are a GTX750ti minimum and a GTX970 recommended... I'm not making this shit up here, but if you won't take my word for it, wait till we see the recommended specs of Halo Infinite and Forza. Call me crazy but I'm pretty sure it's not going to be a NVME SSD and a RTX2070 Super. Not saying that, 2 years from now, Series X games will still run fine on a GTX750Ti either. It will totally depend on what will be common in the average consumer pc by then. If Nvidia and AMD don't drop their prices for their current high-end cards and their new gpu's will be crazy expensive, that could very well be a GTX1060, though.

Basically what I'm saying is that we don't really know when Series X will have full blown next gen games, until AMD and Nvidia announce the prices of their new gpu's and/or a major price drop for the RTX cards.