| Trumpstyle said: The computer glitch was in stockholm, that backlog that glitch caused all belongs to Stockholm, I see worldometer is reporting 114 cases for us yesterday, the media here says 948 cases, worldometer must be using bad source. Our increase isn't because of the computer glitch from the look of it. The confirmed cases are growing in Västra Götaland where our second biggest city lies (Gothenburg).
But I don't think the spread of the virus is increasing, if you read one of my previous post, we are doing a lot more testing. In beginning of April we were doing 20k tests a week we now doing 36k tests a week. 500 Cases for Ontario isn't that much, I'm not sure why you guys are so careful, population is over 14 million over there. Västra Götaland only 1.7 million people :) |
We are careful because there are still 160 people dying every week of covid19...
Yet some measures need to be reduced, hospitals need to go back to normal operations. There is also still the fear of catching the virus when going to the doctor or hospital. Sadly a colleague of my brother in law died a couple days ago from a heart attack, alone at home. (My brother in law went to look for him when he didn't show up for work) He was more afraid of catching covid19 than going to the hospital with chest / arm pain :(
Better communication, better testing and keeping covid19 cases away from general hospitals still need to be done.
Btw infometer updated to 752 cases for yesterday, the main page says 114 but the detailed page has the revised numbers. They have sort of tried to fix the glitch by reworking their data backwards but only in the detailed page.
Not so nice report on Sweden from Canada
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/sweden-didn-t-lock-down-but-economy-to-plunge-anyway-1.4973195
Under the Scandinavian country's controversial approach to the virus, cafes, bars, restaurants and most businesses remained open, as did schools for under-16s, with people urged to follow social distancing and hygiene guidelines. Whatever hope there may have been that this policy would soften the economic blow now seems dashed.
"As in most of the world, there will be a record decline for the Swedish economy in Q2," SEB bank economist Olle Holmgren said. A rebound was likely in the latter part of the year, but "we expect it to take a long time before the situation normalises," he told AFP. To be fair, Swedish officials insist their strategy was always aimed at public health, and never specifically at saving the economy.
The idea was to make sure hospitals could keep pace with the outbreak and protect the elderly and at-risk groups. Sweden has succeeded at the former, but admitted failure at the latter, with more than three-quarters of virus deaths occurring among nursing home residents and those receiving care at home.
Authorities acknowledge that keeping businesses open was also part of a broader public health consideration, as high unemployment and a weak economy typically lead to poorer public health. Sweden, a country of 10.3 million, had reported 4,639 COVID-19 deaths as of Friday. That gives it one of the world's highest virus mortality rates, with 459.3 deaths per million inhabitants -- four times more than neighbouring Denmark and 10 times more than Norway, which both imposed stricter confinement measures.
| vivster said: I don't think we will get a second big wave. Masks and distancing is just too effective. If I had to make a guess I'd say that if full lockdown prevents 100% of spread then mandatory masks and distancing are about 80% effective. Coupled with very few active cases it's gonna be really easy to keep going down in cases while having economy up at 90%. Of course this won't work well in stupid countries where measures are eased before getting active cases down at all. |
How quickly the Western superiority complex comes back up ;)
Masks aren't all that effective, they are mostly effective against coughing, they are not effective at all at stopping the virus to be inhaled. Distancing is only effective up to a point.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/is-it-safe-to-dine-on-a-patio-during-covid-19-1.4972610
Farber points to a study by Chinese researchers which looked at a case of transmission at a restaurant in Guangzhou, China in January. An asymptomatic diner seated in the middle of the restaurant appeared to spread the virus to nine other people in the space. Though the study had several limitations, researchers suggested that the restaurants air conditioner spread the virus particles around the dining room.
Outside is much safer but patios need to be re-arranged for good airflow and distancing, since you obviously can't eat/drink with a mask on.
Update for Europe, 3 day average reported cases
Russia leading the way with 8800 cases per day out of Europe's current 16.5K per day.
5 made it below the 100 cases per day line so far, Denmark, Austria, Ireland, Switzerland and Norway.
3 day average reported deaths
The UK is leading in reported deaths (although Russia is only counting half) with 250 a day out of Europe's 700 a day.
3 countries beat the virus, Norway, Austria and Switzerland are off the map, Denmark very close, Ireland getting there.
It's is pretty disheartening to see how long it still takes Italy to get the death rate down, still at 82 reported deaths per day (from a peak of 855)
Spain is still updating their reporting system, they went from 60 deaths a day to 1 or 2 a day while 'fixing' things.
Week over week
Slight slight growth in Russia, better testing catching up perhaps.
The UK declining but slowly.
Italy is pretty consistent in its decline, showing how long it takes to get back down from a big peak.
The Netherlands is veering back up a bit, less stability in reporting, same with Germany.
Belgium dipped under the 100 cases for a couple days, now back over 100.
Norway has a slight increase to around 20 cases a day, looks dramatic week over week compared to 12 cases a day a week ago.
Sweden has a big increase, from a glitch, Vastra Gotaland getting big and likely also increased testing catching already ongoing cases.
With 4,851 deaths last week in Europe this thing is far from over. Plus that's missing data from Spain and the very much under counted Russia as well as under counting in other countries. The world total passed 400K reported deaths yesterday. (Europe 178.5K total, NA 134.7K, Oceania 124!)
