Do We Really Want a New Cold War?

[Eagle367]

EnricoPallazzo said:

Eagle367 said:

Sorry but the US isn't the paragon of freedom you all make it to be, it's a paragon of Imperialism and war. I'm tired of the entirety of the west being weighed down by the evils of the US. Sorry but the western way of life isn't a monolith. It's a hodgepodge of good and bad. The US, UK, France, Australia and Germany have many of the bad but Germany has become much better. The others are bogged down by the war mongering, imperialism, and superiority complex of these powerful nations. I would love the western way if you mean Canada, Norway, New Zealand, etc and I don't really want the authoritarianism, austerity, manufactured consent, imperialism and oligarchy of the US regimes. I don't want China's or Russia's world either.

But we all know we're gonna be stuck under either China or the US and it's about dick measuring and which authority stomps on global human rights. So I would much rather have peace than world war 3. The middle east, africa and south America have already suffered a lot because of the hegemony of the US and UK before it, with a little bit of French flavour so just imagine what we all would suffer in a world war? 

I choose peace over war any day and war doesn't help in changing ideologies, interaction of cultures, views and minds is what changes things for the better. Diplomacy over war any day.

God... I don't even know where to start with all that "imperialism" talk. Blah Blah Blah

I dont either love or hate US. They are just the hegemonic power at the moment, and as just as any other during history, it will resort to all means to stay in power. Just like any other in the past. ANY. You want to hate america, alright , go for it if it makes you feel better somehow.

If china becomes the dominant power it will do the same or worse. Probably worse. The same goes for Russia.

But as I said, I much rather have someone dominating me that respects my sexuality, religion, freedom of speech, freedom of press, democracy and etc than a power that will shut it all down and install a black mirror version of the world.

At least USA can be criticized, people can go to the streets,  presidents can be changed, you can worship the flying spaghetti god and participate on a trans midget furry orgy without being arrested.

You think USA is bad? Just wait for China then.

Anyway, I'm totally against a war but it seems inevitable. Is the west just accepts everything china is doing, they will be dominated and crushed economically and culturally, probably even losing territory and our life will be miserable. Or the west does not accept, gets their factories out of China which will then make China retaliate against an ally, thus creating a war.

My hope is the west can be smart, get the factories out of there, tax them, and if they retaliate against taiwan or hong kong, let it be. If nobody gets involved it will be peaceful. And their economic downturn might generate a change in command.  

Stop confusing western ideals with the US. Again, as I said to the other guy, they won't stop existing whoever is the super power.