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First, let's separate China from CCP. That should be the first rule.

So basically according to OP, CCP just wants to do business. Nothing about that but certainly it has no intention of complying to international rules and will continue to do so. Their malpractice has been screwing a lot of nations. Everyone should listen to this speech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFqg8ZNtUlc

With the way it's exerting its extreme authoritarian power onto several countries in the SEA and also on Hong Kong and Taiwan, then let's go to a cold war with these communists.

Don't get me wrong, US has been done some messed up shit and are clearly not holier than thou. But they are way better than these commie scumbags. They need to find a way to put China in a choke hold and kill their economy. The manufacturing exodus that's happening is the first step.

Mnementh said:

The Chinese government is not trying to export communist ideology the way the Soviets did; it is more interested in exporting semiconductors.

To the point. What do people expect China does? They are a power based on trade, not ideology. So the biggest threat they offer is flooding us with products.

If you say that China does not export Ideology, that's a grave mistake. You should see how much of a reach the CCP's ideology has on some universities. To the point that they can pressure the institution to silence criticism against CCP ideologies. The video I posted above talks about it. Not to mention, it's also known that they coerce other country's government to play with their propaganda.

You want proof? Just look at Philippines and how much of a commie dick sucker the administration has become. They have our country by the balls and even slapped our face by releasing a video that implies they have our backs.

It was ironic that they titled the video "Iisang Dagat" which means "One sea" or "United sea" depending on how much implications you are putting into it. The fact that they made it like that despite knowing we have a dispute on West Philippine Sea, shows how much sincere these fuckers really are for their neighbors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2E0yDvn0xiU

If you think that CCP is benevolent, just look at what they are doing with the "donations" that they are giving to other countries. They require that you publicly thank China for it.

Mnementh said:

When educated people are familiar with another country’s language and culture they are less likely to demonize it.

Something I think is very much true. An interesting point that people pointed out, is that many chinese people learn english and other western languages, understand western media and science and are willing to learn. But the other way around is very unusual.

It's funny when you think China's government and political machinery are not the worst offender out of them all when it comes to twisting words. To the point that they would mistranslate a news about the COVID-19 origins in order to just play a propaganda narrative that the virus originated in United States.

Mnementh said:

Let’s stop accusing our political opponents of being “soft on China.” Let’s be rational on China.

I think it is a general good rule to be rational on any political topic. All the 'we need to show strength' rhethoric shows restricted thinking and therefore a good chance to find only suboptimal solutions to a problem.

This is true. We have to be fair. But China's government itself should be fair to others as well. Not abiding by International Regulations and misdirecting other country's sovereignty in the process should be met with harsh response.

Last edited by iron_megalith - on 26 May 2020