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goopy20 on 21 May 2020
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LudicrousSpeed said:
goopy20 said:

Like I said a 100 times, they aren't just effects. I think you should just try a bit harder to grasp what Epic actually demonstrated with that tech demo, instead of saying its just has some more rocks. Its a fundamental change in how games can be developed by levering next gen storage, allowing developers to spend less time working around technical limitations and focus more on worldbuilding, gameplay and adding content to their games. 

Unlike gpu bound games we've seen in the past, SSD specific tech like Nanite isn't scalable. Developers either use it, or they don't. If they're making a cross-gen game, they'll still have to jump through hoops and spend a ton of time making sacrifices in order to make it work on the Xone/ps4. Basically defeating its whole purpose. 

Yes, in theory Series X also can also take full advantage of Nanite, but its not the hardware that's the problem. My personal issue has more to do with MS's cross-gen strategy that's holding their 1st party games back from using things like Nanite from the get go. MS wants everybody to be able play their games on GP and it seems like they'll be playing the waiting game. They're not going to release AAA budget games when only 1% of the pc gamers have a pc that can run it. They'll wait till Series X like hardware becomes mainstream on pc, while in the mean time they're focused on making cross-gen, and small scale games to fill the GP library.

It's not bad perse and if you're fine with waiting a bit for true next games, then who am I to argue? A couple of years in, its not going to matter anymore anyway, as the average gaming pc will have caught up with these next gen consoles. By then, I'm sure we'll see amazing looking games on Series X, even though the next gen wow factor will have diminished by then. But in the here and now, it does rob us of that next-gen thrill. You can bet your ass Sony will be showing games during their reveal that will be build around their own Nanite-like tech. Which is why Sony's reveal will very likely be a lot more exciting than MS's showcases of "smart delivery" games.   

This is the same argument you fell back on in your last locked thread. We’ve given you plenty of examples of cross gen games where the next gen version wasn’t held back at all, including a few from Microsoft themselves. You tried to twist 343 comments to paint a different picture than what they meant, idk why you can’t just understand that cross gen doesn’t automatically mean held back, especially for first party games. 

Also you should actually look into the projects MS studios are rumored to be working on and what they are hiring for, then you wouldn’t be talking about small scale GamePass filler. Ignorance is no excuse.

Lastly, I’d hope Sony first party games show off better than multi plats/third party stuff MS showcased.

We will see man. Either I''ve been drinking too much of the marketing cool-aid and I'm expecting to much from the SSD tech. Or.. I'm right and it will have a pretty dramatic effect on what developers can do when they can take full advantage of it, or when they have to think "will this run on Xbox One's HDD and Jaguar cpu too". 

I agree, I also hope Sony's first party games will get me a lot more excited about next than what MS has shown so far.