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SvennoJ on 21 May 2020
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Nighthawk117 said:
SvennoJ said:

North America will be the #1 continent probably before the end of next week, 7 or 8 days from now.

It would be nice if we could get accurate numbers from Asia....but as we all know, that is wishful thinking.


Yep, all the big hitters in Asia have dubious numbers. Turkey and Iran are at the top right now and they both have stretches in the data that are so lacking in any variation it can not be natural. China adjusts definitions on the fly. India seems to be doing its best on testing, yet with 1.4 billion people to keep track of... Pretty much the same population as China nowadays without the luxury of having it started in one spot nor the power of the ccp.

Pemalite said:

SvennoJ said:

Population density has a big influence. If you compare Sweden to Norway, Norway beat the virus with 234 deaths and is down to 10 new cases a day or less. Australia beat the virus with only 100 deaths. Sweden is still over 500 new cases daily (average from last week since their reporting is so irregular) and 63 deaths daily, on top of the 3,831 deaths so far.

But yep, compared to who is (or was) doing the worst in Europe, Sweden looks pretty good...

Now it all depends on whether the countries that got it down get a second big wave or if they can prevent / keep a second wave down.

There are also social habits we need to be mindful of, some nations have social practices that require more frequent personal interaction with others.

New Zealand has a population density of 15 people per square kilometer.
Australia has a population density of 3.1 people per square kilometer.

New Zealand has a population of 4.88 Million people with 1,452 total COVID cases and 20 deaths.
Australia has a population of 24.99 Million people with 7,077 total COVID cases and 100 deaths.

New Zealand is 5x as dense as Australia, so arguably should statistically see higher trends, but that doesn't seem to play out in the real world.

The issue with Australia is that, density statistics can't ever be accurate... Because the majority of the entire continent isn't really populated, we are all focused in a few key coastal areas.

Same here, avg population density 4 per sq km, greater Toronto area 6 million people at 832 per sq km.

We're still struggling to get down

Canada and also the USA are creeping back up to the 100% line again.

Ontario is doing the worst atm

Thanks to Quebec (with 2.5x as many cases) still slowing down, Ontario isn't dragging Canada above 100% yet. However cases in Ontario are increasing again. Ford has already warned people that he will not hesitate closing things down again. I'm still at home, not going anywhere, yet the commercials have all changed since last week. It's all "Now we have the worst behind us, welcome back to" etc. Commerce has decided it's time to go shopping again.