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| Trumpstyle said: Here's a picture from Nytimes hit piece on us:
We have reported a total of 3831 death which includes todays number. Nytimes report an excess death of 3300 as of may 3. |
Canada looked into its excess deaths as well and came out we're well in the negative after subtracting the covid19 deaths.
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/excess-deaths-not-in-canada-during-pandemic-s-early-days-statcan-says-1.4937145
The agency found that between Jan. 1 and March 31, the eight provinces and one territory included in the data actually saw 1,145 fewer deaths than expected.
Quebec, which has been hit harder by the pandemic than any other part of Canada, logged 1,257 fewer deaths than expected between January and March, according to StatCan.
Another measure to take with a grain of salt, plenty other factors at work, but large percentages above normal do indicate not counting all covid19 related deaths.
Anyway, cities are hit harder, low population density areas are hit much less or not at all (Nunavut in Canada). Comparing Sweden to the UK will always be comparing apples to oranges. The population of greater London (8.9 million) isn't that far off the entire population of Sweden. The population density of Greater London is 4,542 people per sq km, Greater Stockholm or Stockholm county (2.2 million) has a population density of 360 people per sq km.
Population density seems to be the biggest factor for community spread which makes sense. NYC (18.8 million) has a population density of over 10K per sq km. Melbourne (5.2 million), the most populated city in Australia, 453 per sq km. It makes more sense to compare Sweden to Australia than to the UK or USA.
For comparison, the greater Toronto area (5.9 million) has a population density of 849 per sq km and Montreal metro area (4.1 million) 898 per sq km. We have tons of room but crowded cities as well.
Lower density, less measures needed to get the growth rate below 1.0, much better chances at beating the spread quickly and then keeping it under control with much lower effort. New Zealand and Australia caught on quickly and are now virtually free of community spread. Norway and Luxembourg as well, Finland, Austria and Switzerland very close behind followed by Ireland and Denmark. Japan and South Korea got it under control as well.
Sweden still has the easy mode option to eliminate community spread in less than a month if they want to. Or keep going with 60 deaths a day until maybe it stops by itself. It should eventually when the higher density areas start getting saturated, either by herd immunity or by all the easy targets being used up. I assume many Swedish people are just as concerned and practice their own social distancing while avoiding places carrying more risk.
Google's mobility update dated May 13 still has Sweden at -18% retail + recreation, -34% transit stations, and -23% workplaces.
https://www.gstatic.com/covid19/mobility/2020-05-13_SE_Mobility_Report_en.pdf
No mandated lockdown (which is needed where population density is simply too high to let people self regulate) yet people are taking measures.
