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JRPGfan said:
Naum said:
Its kinda depressing seeing the numbers in some countries.. some go steady but slowly down finally after 2-3 months(wich is good).. while others go higher and higher by huge magins.

I actually think its impressive Sweden stuck to its minimal lockdown route, and came out better than some countries.

Like in the UK they have reported ~35,400 deaths, but their "excess mortality" for this time periode (covid19) is around ~60,000.
Meaning theres probably close to 60,000 deaths due to covid19.

Meanwhile Sweden has reported 3,831 deaths, which are about in line with their excess mortality rates.

You might say... well sweden is a small country, its population is much smaller than the UKs.
And you would be right, the UK has a population thats ~67m vs Swedens ~10m.

That still makes Sweden come out looking much better than the UK.


The worrisom ones:
Brazil, Its numbers just keeps going up.
Their president doesnt care "what can I do?" *shrugs shoulders*, their Health ministers keep quitting their jobs ect.

Russia worries me, high daily cases. However I suspect they will get it under controll at some point.

US worries me too, its still seeing 20,000+ daily cases and its now reopening even if Rt is still above 1 in some places there.
Seems like Trump is willing to take economy over lives.

Mexico:
They say mexico is under reporting numbers by like a factor of 10. (ei. closer to 50,000 deaths, than its reported 5000).
They have only tested 170k. They "lie" about numbers that they do find, and about cause of deaths (to down play the issue).


The irony is Sweden used to worry me too. I'm glad I was wrong, about how bad things would get there though.
Their idea of "just let it spread" and try protect the elderly instead, doesnt seem as bad (in terms of deaths) as some places were they had lockdowns (and didnt manage to protect their elderly).

Population density has a big influence. If you compare Sweden to Norway, Norway beat the virus with 234 deaths and is down to 10 new cases a day or less. Australia beat the virus with only 100 deaths. Sweden is still over 500 new cases daily (average from last week since their reporting is so irregular) and 63 deaths daily, on top of the 3,831 deaths so far.

But yep, compared to who is (or was) doing the worst in Europe, Sweden looks pretty good...

Now it all depends on whether the countries that got it down get a second big wave or if they can prevent / keep a second wave down.