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chakkra said:
DonFerrari said:

Yes zero progress made on the conversation. You know better than the devs.

I think the issue here is that you guys put way to much credit into whatever the devs say. I think that is a terrible mistake because a) they want to sell their games, and b) they will always make excuses to justify not putting things into said games.

Just to give you an example: recently the devs from Scorn and The Medium said they chose the XSX bcuz their "vision" would just not be possible on the X1. Yeah, that was bs. Just like when Obsidian said that Outer Worlds was limited by current hardware, as if there were not many bigger and graphically more complex games out there. Yeah, that was bs too.

Also, I'm here scratching my head trying to remember exactly what gameplay element was present in KZ:Shadowfall that didn't exist in any of the FPS from the gen before.

I see you said, "you guys." Maybe you're being diplomatic, but I think its him that believes whatever studios say.

I look at the software, Don's argument has been what developers say.

Much like you, I'm using 7th gen games to show 8th gen's launch content was not that impressive. I argue console releases of Farcry 3/4 and Crysis games were far more impressive than KZ:Shadowfall. More enjoyable as well. The only significant edge I can give Killzone:SF is graphics obviously.



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