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John2290 said:
Trumpstyle said:

We (Sweden) are doing a long-term play, our goal is to build immunity while protecting the vulnerable, this will shield us against future waves and should lead to less dead/million. You guys are doing Trace/Quarantine/self-isolate, we shall see which one is better. As you guys start opening up, you might start to catch up with us in dead/million.

As for face masks, you do understand a vaccine can take 2-5 years before it's develop, are you gonna walk around with a face mask all that time?

The only reason you guys have less active cases then us is because we are expanding testing, in beginning in april we did 20k test a week now we doing 30k test a week. This is why more testing is bad, it makes your numbers look worse.

I hope you and Vivster are gonna protest mandating face masks, the most your government should do is recommend.

Testing doesn't change reality, lol, it's an anchor in the water. I gotta wonder are you some kind of solipsist who believes things onpy appear when you observe them? What's worse though, testing now or comparing death rates this year to previous years.

I have to admit though, I'm falling more and more in line with Sweden. Not in regards to the testing or keeping pubs open and other stupid shit like that but that a full lovkdown is a death sentence down the road, perhaps for large portions of a population. We need to find the line, quickly and balance this, somewhere in between but not to the extreme, either side. 

Like almost everything else in this blighted age, the question of Sweden's response to Covid has become politicized to the point of meaninglessness. So maybe this is dumb/naive to ask -- and I may be misremembering -- but going back a bit, wasn't the original goal of our sundry and various measures to "flatten the curve"?

Meaning that we wanted to slow the rate of infections such that they did not overwhelm medical infrastructure at any given point, not to somehow stop Covid from spreading altogether (which has long been acknowledged as impossible, so far as I can recall). Well, maybe it's yet too early to tell, but is there any way we can evaluate Sweden's approach from that perspective? Have their capacities been overwhelmed? Is it approaching that point?

Last edited by donathos - on 14 May 2020