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Zkuq on 12 May 2020
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SvennoJ said:
Zkuq said:

I usually want to wait even when installing a new game because those updates sure do bring lots of good stuff these days (partially because sometimes games are barely ready when they're released). I don't have auto-update though, because it's ridiculously locked behind a paywall, and I'd get maybe a few hours of worth every few months so it's not even nearly worth the cost to me. That 'few hours' is how much I'd maybe play online on consoles if I had access to online gameplay, and no, PS+ games don't help because my backlog is so huge that I'd never get to play them anyway. If PS+ is worth it for you though (and it seems to be for a lot of people), I guess auto-updates are quite handy.

I have ps+ (for GT Sport online races and my kids use it on the primary ps4) play often but also don't have auto updates enabled. For that the system needs to be in standby mode. Since I use the ps4 pro in different places depending on the game and time of day it needs to be off or it gets very angry for unplugging it while in standby mode. Most updates fail anyway because of the stupid disk space requirements. GT Sport is 108 GB, requiring another 108 GB to update and it takes 35 minutes to install the update (copy the game over). SSD next gen will be a blessing, it only being 850 GB will be a curse.

Steam keeps everything up to date by itself, which is how I wrongly assumed the game had the new update (which was for the beta branch) or I wouldn't have even tried to get it running again.

It's a pita either way. Auto updates plus bandwidth caps don't mix (I'm glad to have unlimited internet now at least). Auto updates with limited disk space don't mix either. Choosing what to update sucks as well since often when I launch an older game it wants to update first. (Doesn't matter for single player but anything online like GT Sport won't work until updated)

PS+ games, I downloaded Uncharted 4, then deleted it again because I needed the disk space to update ARK to play with my kids. By the time it was done updating my kids had moved on to Fortnite. Fun times.

Oh, I had already forgotten about the standby requirement... Yeah, I don't keep my PS4 in standby mode either because I'm worred about accidentally disconnecting the power cable e.g. when cleaning or when switching the HDMI cable (because there's only one HDMI port in my TV).

Space requirements in general and updates are why I don't consider console gaming these days very convenient. Almost every game requires me to waste time deciding what game I want to delete, and then I need to wait for the new game to install and preferably update as well. It's annoying also because it's very unpredictable: When starting up my PS4, I never know if there's an update waiting for me and how long I might have to wait for the update to finish downloading.

Steam's auto-update is really unreliable, I feel. I mean, I guess it probably keep games up-to-date pretty well, but too often I see 'Update queued' next to my games in my library, wondering whether it's going to update by itself later or if something's bugged. There are only a few of those at most at once, so I'm guessing Steam generally keeps things updated on its own, but thoses cases where it's not updating something are somewhat baffling.

I'm really happy we pretty much never got bandwidth caps here in Finland. Not even the cheapest plans have any bandwidth caps. There was a short moment when some were attempted to be introduced, but apparently they died quite quickly.