Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[Pyro as Bill]

vivster said:

John2290 said:

No, the whole world doesn't hate the right and this has been the case for the latter half of the decade. A cascade of countries have voted in conservatives and "the right". Also, from an outsider looking in, it's the left that are the ones who are evil a mnd use peoples emotions as tools to get thwir own way, the right is indeed stupid but they are honest, hardworking and more reasonable on average. Not even in your own country do people hate republicans cause over half voted one in a few years ogo. You're media, industries and businesses have been infiltrated by China and they have massive influence over them. 

And if you really think that, move to China then or a poor country, you'll learn to cherish what you have in America if you do and no, Japan doesn't count. 

There are so many falsehoods in that small paragraph, I can't believe I say this but I kinda expected better even from you.

But lets first make clear that I am really really glad that I am not an American. I live in a democracy and it's pretty great. I don't have to fear Chinese propaganda or lies because where I live people are held accountable when they spread lies. The right wing isn't the issue, I should know I have lived under a right wing government for almost 15 years now. I also consider myself slightly right leaning. That's why I was talking specifically about the US right, which would be considered in any other country as far right populists. Those people aren't respected anywhere in Europe and frankly basically every other country in the world, no matter their political affiliation, is laughing about the Republican party. A party that pledges its full support to a man who they hate. A man with so little values that it's even eroding the last tiny bit of credibility the party had.

China has absolutely infiltrated the US, but not how you think they did. I'm not even talking about the massive amount of debt that the US owes China. I'm talking about giant US corporations with business in China that they wouldn't want to sacrifice. Giant corporations which are naturally huge fans of the Republican party are under the foot of China because that's where they wanted to be to squeeze out a few more bucks by selling any integrity they might've have left. The influence China has over America is 100% self inflicted, willingly. The US is the main reason China was even able to acquire that much influence. So talking about bad Chinese influence on the US is a bit ironic, considering it's exactly what the US wants.

As for the Chinese influence on media, I highly doubt that China is forcing US officials to spread lies on a daily basis. Lies that are so blatant that you don't even have to be a journalist to uncover them. There probably is some influence somewhere but if anything it's being buried under self inflicted scandals. China couldn't even dream to make the US look as bad as they portrait themselves.

Now I am absolutely not saying that China did a better job with the virus. What China does to their citizens is abhorrent. And that's kinda the point. If you have to compare the treatment of your own population with China you already lost. Pointing fingers at China is not gonna stop people from dying in the US, even if Republicans like to think so.

You're pretty naive. Why didn't EU leaders agree with the letter the EU sent out that ignored the fact the virus came from China? (What's the yen symbol shortcut on my keyboard?)

China owns large parts of the West (and the South, East and North) and uses that to subvert the West. It's fair game because the West does exactly the same to them. It's no different than Russia and the UK putting their subs and planes in each other's airspace/waters and playing hide n seek with each other.

I know Russia are the bad guys but it's hilarious whenever they rick roll Poland with a nuclear bomber.