The LGBT thread (Revisited)

[Runa216]

Immersiveunreality said:

Runa216 said:

I keep posting here because I - like Pepperidge farm - remember when this thread was actually fun and I want to be a part of it when it inevitably comes back to being fun. Or at least interesting. I also didn't agree with the direction I thought it was going and wanted to get it back on topic. 

You and I seem to want the same thing, here. why call me out because I'm being vocal? Isn't that...sort of the point? On a forum? 

Oh so that is what the pepperidge farm meme is,as a non American,Canadian it was kinda weird seeing people commenting about that and the whole memeculture has been so out of control that it loses my interest.

Bolded: Eh nothing wrong with being vocal so long that it does not turn into an US politics thread 2.0 with the same people going at eachother and other the forumdwellers staying out of it because their comments get lost in the conflict.

Question: Did you ever feel akward or unsure what to do around a gay person and if so, how did you learn from it or deal with that situation?(while growing up)

It was never a problem for me. Maybe it was my upbringing (Sexuality was the one thing my parents taught me that they didn't fuck up; they were quite progressive in that department, they were just shitty in other ways. No, I was not abused), or maybe it's just that I'm in Canada, but being gay was never stigmatized here. I mean, kids would call people fags, but kids are shitty. Even as a kid, my teachers, parents, and friends all seemed to agree that there was nothing wrong with being gay and that some people just were and that's not a problem. It was normalized for me as long as I can remember. and, like I said, despite some kids being shitty and calling people gay or whatever, I never saw it treated poorly. 

Then I met people from around the world and realized...holy shit, some countries out there genuinely are terrible. I wasn't racist as a kid, but in some specific cases, I kinda am now. I'm very hateful towards any groups or nationalities where homosexuality is outlawed and I'm pretty aggressively anti-saudi/middle eastern for the bullshit way they treat women and gay folks. Keep in mind, I'm not against Muslims or anything, just the middle eastern nations themselves and the people who perpetuate the bigotry. I'm about as anti-hate as you get when it comes to, you know, people just livin' their lives. Muslims/etc in Canada are fine. Christians in Canada are fine. Muslims in the middle east can be terrible, and so can Christians. It's a regional thing, not a religion/skin colour thing. wow, I think I just buried myself pretty deeply. 

then again, it's not the race, it's not the creed, it's not the religion, it's the actions. I guess it's different to hate someone for what they say and do than what they are or what they believe. I guess it's not racism, I just hate shitty bigots. Not the same thing.