Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[sethnintendo]

JRPGfan said:

sethnintendo said:

Those numbers are fake!  They are keeping numbers artificially low to try and help win reelection!

-Trump during Obama era

Actually it doesn't count a lot of self employed freelancers and we all know most of those people are either fucked or semi fucked right now.

This isnt even counting the furloughed, people.
These are just fired people, applying for unemployment.

Actual numbers might be higher.
Also as you start opening back up, numbers will likely climb too.
Some might have family members at high risk, and not want to go back to work, if it means high chance of them getting infected.

The job losses, seem really high, compaired to most european countries were they offered to "cover" the pay wages (atleast partly), if companies keep employes on the job. Why didnt the US go with a simular solution? it seems clear PPP isnt protecting workers or jobs effectively enough.

I'm furloughed till mid May so another 2 weeks or so.  Collecting unemployment right now but even when my plant starts up again we will probably be on reduced hours (20) so I will still be collecting partial unemployment unless orders start picking up.  We manufacture those clear aligners but most dentist or orthodontist have been shutdown unless emergency surgery so have to wait till they get going.  We ship not just US but worldwide but orders are way down compared to few months ago when we were full steam ahead.

I think the law they passed for small business loans was supposed to encourage them to keep on payrolls in order to forgive loan but I believe they have till end of July or August till they have to spend on labor in order to be forgiven.  Basically there isn't much work at most places so they only need half or less of staff.  So those workers would probably be on reduced hours and claiming partial unemployment still.  Basically it is a mess right now.