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The_Liquid_Laser said:
The Fury said:

Both true, and luckily, even though I would say FF12 isn't as FF as other titles, it's still a superb game as it was made by the Ivalice team (who don't exist anymore sadly). The merge was the start of things going down hill, I have always known that but I do find it strange that they aren't trying to look at why 6-10 heyday was so good and not looking to that to get their influences to create the next generation of the FF games. Looking at FF7"Remake" combat, they looked at more modern FF games and other series instead, things like button mashing and stagger made it into a remake of a game that had none of that. These were things people liked from previous entries? Really?

I think they need a FF game to really tank in sales in order to get a wake up call.  My favorite series have always been Zelda and FF.  The best thing to happen to Zelda was actually Skyward Sword, because the sales of it were so disappointing.  It was a serious wake up call to Nintendo.  "Hey we are losing one of our key series here."  The result was Breath of the Wild.

While long time fans of FF can tell the series has seriously gotten off track, it is still selling well enough that Square-Enix thinks the games are just fine.  They really need FF16 to be a total flop.  They need a wake up call to tell them to get back to their roots.  Until that happens, they are just going to continue on this same track and not correct themselves.

Arguably, in terms of rocky and lengthy development and the associated costs, FFXIII was their Skyward Sword moment. They ended up making a further two games in the series to make use of the ridiculous number of assets that never made it into the original game to help maintain profit from the initial investment. 

Their answer to that was... er... Final Fantasy XV which sold almost as well as FFX. I don't see them moving from this track anytime soon.