Pyro as Bill said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post%E2%80%93World_War_II_economic_expansion |
The USA came out of it rather well, but they didn't loose 10's of millions of people like most of Europe... They didn't have all their production/factories bombed or wiped out. - Europe/United Kingdom and other areas after WW2 saw economic collapses of 70% or more.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aftermath_of_World_War_II#Economic_aftermath
However by the end of the 1950's most economies had bounced back.
The British Empire went from controlling 23% of the worlds population and now holds a paltry 0.87% of the worlds comparative population. - It lost tons of controlled states/territories/dependencies as well, Hong Kong is a fairly significant one for example.
The United States economy after it got hit by Japan shifted gears, economically there was a big focus on manufacturing, R&D and military, that really never stopped minus a recession here or there.
| KiigelHeart said: Economy will start to grow again but at what cost. When you put out bush fires you don't necessarely see the effects collapsing economy has to life and quality of life. Social security system is not some magical safety net that can prevent all the shit from happening. Especially when our country is in debt already. Most economists are very much worried about where things are headed, and for a good reason. . |
When a region is hit by the bushfires.
The community steps in with financial aid... The community donated hundreds of millions of dollars so people could rebuild.
People like myself gave up several months of their life protecting communities.
The Government also stepped in and provided aid so that people could rebuild.
You are right, Social Security isn't a preventative, it was never meant to be a preventative, it is part of the response phase, debt and money isn't as important as human life... Anyone who places money above human life isn't a human being in my opinion.
| KiigelHeart said: At his point in many countries it's not about closing things down for a month or two anymore. Finland did it too and we are potentially yet to hit the peak. I'm also not saying everything needs to be opened at once. But continuing this level of lockdown will result in huge economic impact and affect lives. And these lives I'm worried about despite you accusing me of valuing the worth of dollar over a life. Which is insulting by the way.eryone from infection will result in worse. |
Finland hasn't taken the same measures as Australia and New Zealand, I did a case study a few weeks ago of another island nation similar in population size and density to New Zealand... And they haven't been as successful.
Let the economic impact happen, let it effect lives... Force the government to step in with measures to support the people and weather the storm.
And yes, you are valuing the dollar over life because you are more worried about the economic impacts rather than peoples health, no that isn't insulting, let's not sugar coat it. - It is exactly what your stance is.
| KiigelHeart said: Good for Australia and New Zealand if you can put all this behind already. But it's too late for many countries and I think we'll be living with COVID-19 for a long time, it can't be erased anymore. And trying to protect everyone from infection will result in worse. |
And it's those countries own fault.
If the United States took instant proactive measures, they wouldn't be in the situation they are in, they would instead be looking at the possibility of having defeated the virus and getting back to normalcy.
But their laggard approach and nonchalant way of thinking is what has gotten them into this predicament which could have been entirely avoided. - And let's be realistic here, this isn't the first wide-spread disease the United States has had to deal with, H1N1 was also a "test" they could have learned from, but didn't.
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