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JuliusHackebeil said:
sales2099 said:

I suppose it’s subjective. For me the PS3 vs 360 gen will always be history that will keep on teaching decades later. Xbox made considerable effort to cater to Japan from 2006-2009 yet was met with indifference. Their output of exclusives surpassed Ps3 until 2008 yet the sales did not reflect that. The 2007 house market collapse and RROD didn’t help though.

Where as Ps3 coasted on pure brand power until MGS4 in mid 2008. If any other console had that $599 price point and so-so exclusives for the first 2 years....it would have been a Sega Saturn scenario. Europe and Japan kept Sony afloat until the console got its act together.

So while exclusives have their place, pre existing brand power makes the start position different for everyone. By no means are Series X and PS5 launching as equals. Which again, is good for me because MS has to try a lot harder to impress. 

I tend to agree on your take of Japan in 360 vs PS3. XBox does not sell there, no matter what. But at the same time, the PS3 sold considrably less than the PS2 in Japan and everywhere else aswell. They made a huge plunder and performed in that generation almost half as good as the one before. Sonys mistakes do have an impact on them. 

A also kind of agree on the point about the next gen consoles not launching as equals. Microsoft is the underdog out of the gate,  that's for sure. But if Halo is as good as I think it might be, they will not have any problems selling everything they can produce for their first six months or even for the first year. Consoles often sell on promises. Microsoft can make big promises given that their first party is now stronger than ever. And that goes for PS5 aswell. A huge selling point will be sequels - SpiderMan2, Horizon 2, God of War. No matter how much better the XBox hardware, or price point is. When one of these drop, I will be buying a PS5.

Guess it’s time Xbox brings out the other guns. Fable, Hellblade 2, Obsidians AAA project, The Initiative IP...they got to change the perception that it’s just Halo Gears and Forza. But after the next couple months, i think that’s more then possible 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.