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Immersiveunreality said:
tolu619 said:
Yes, I believe in God, as much as I believe in the existence of anyone else I have interacted with personally. He has literally healed my body of a hernia without a surgery (instantaneously too), and He has told me things that would happen years before they happen, or sometimes given me guidance without telling me why, only for me to obey and eventually discover why He said I should take a certain path. I've only read the responses on the first page of this thread, so forgive me if I repeat something someone else has already said. Now let's look at this from a neutral perspective of someone who doesn't believe in God, but is open to the possibility: Looking for a scientific, logical proof of the existence of God is just the wrong way to go about it because by definition, God transcends this physical plane. The only way to scientifically prove God would be to find a way to strip him down to this plane. It's like 2D trying to prove the existence of 3D or a software trying to prove the existence of sentience, for lack of better analogies. I've also learnt years ago that sharing details of my actual experiences with God on the internet serves no purpose to someone who doesn't already believe, because they have no proof that anything I say actually happened. I'm a stranger on the internet and I could be making everything up as I go. It's like trying to describe the taste of a new edible item to someone who has never tasted it. Nothing you say can actually pass across the information at all. But anyone who has tasted it once will understand what you're saying, even if you're embellishing it by saying "it tastes like it, but a bit more sour" or "a bit spicier"

I also believe you can be able to see,feel,hear what you think is god and other things related to him using science.

Our brain is a trickartist that sometimes is fooling ourselves,you can trigger hallicunations with selfhypnose and the most important part is that you need to clear your mind and believe in something to make the brain to fill in the missing information itself with it's own audiovisual images/hallucinations.

You can try it with a sharp looking picture that if you stare at it for a long time and try forgetting it is a picture it might start altering itself in front of you.

You don't know the half of it. I'd love to hear your explanation for when God tells a third party to tell someone (for example, tells a friend to tell me) about something that neither I nor the friend could have otherwise known, and that thing turns out to come true. For example, God once told 3 completely unrelated people to warn me about the same thing, cause it was a life-threatening issue and He needed to drive the point home. Of course, as I said earlier, you have no reason to believe me. I could be making all of this up. But just assume for a second that I'm genuinely saying something that happened to me. How do you explain it away with your brain trick artist angle, or any other explanation you have?

Also, God created science. I've been a science geek since I was 5. Belief in God and science aren't mutually exclusive. I'm seeing a lot of arguments that sound like "God can't exist because.......science", and that makes no sense to me. That's like a computer program that is limited to 1s and 0s saying that human beings/programmers can't exist because they don't stick to the rules of 1s and 0s.



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