Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[Nautilus]

Hiku said:

Nautilus said:

Yeah sure, there are stupid shit being done by one side, but there are alot of stupid shit being done by the other side, like states aresting people just because they are walking in the street.Which if I need to remind you, is a constitucional right in most countries.Examples are plenty along the thread.

1.) There are state of emergency laws for a reason. 2.) Constitutional rights were written hundreds of years ago when fast and widespread travel was not an everyday thing for the populace.
Can we not act like laws written based on civilizations centuries ago are inherently suited for every situation today?

Though it's never a good sign when someone's natural reaction to criticism of one person is what-about-ism.
Bringing up "both sides" is just a way to backhandedly excuse the behavior of the former.

Nautilus said:

And yeah, Trump has said nothing wrong. I agree with him. If I was in his position, I would have said the same thing.

You would have stoked the flames of people armed with guns (who often seem very 'responsible') by claiming their 2nd amendment is under siege?
I really hope not.

And likewise. The people who defend the idea to prematurely end quarantine, which mainly benefits billionaires and corporations, are probably not considering that the consequences of this could easily lead to having the worst of both worlds. Mass death and a severely (but to a lesser degree) damaged economy because of it. That's what many of us are trying to avoid. We're also considering the economy. Not ignoring it.

Bolded: Bring up both sides is how we have a discussion.If you have only one person talking then it's a monologue.Plus, people have to get out for different reasons:go buy groceries, go to the doctor, or simply to have a walk to not go crazy.If you think you know better than a person that is abbiding the rules and just doing something to keep themselves healthy/sane/occupied without harming others, is the real moment that something is wrong.

Plus, that is how dictatorships are excused.A dictator never goes and says he does the thing he does because he is evil.It's always for the good of the nation.Just saying.

The number of deaths by gun in the US is far lower than most countries in the world, especially compared to the population number.Just saying.But that's another discussion entirely.

If you think that ending the quarentine prematurely will only benefit the billionares and corporations, it's because you are not seeing the number of people being fired around the world.The first group to suffer more because of the economical crisis is always the poor.Remember: A billionare is a billionare because he has money.If his company is going under, he can simply close it and retire with his montain of money.Not the same can be said about the poor.

Mass death and a severely damaged economu is what many of us are trying to avoid.Having a full lockdown for more than a month is not going to achieve that.That's what I have been trying to tell you guys.