Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[Pemalite]

NightlyPoe said:

Pemalite said:

I don't adhere to the American media, narrative of political mud-slinging.

But if Obama did what Trump did and downplayed the Virus, even calling it CNN/Democrat Hoax, I would be criticizing Obama just as heavily for being a moron, if anything, Trump has gotten away with this lightly due to apologetic's who cannot see him doing any wrong.

Seriously?  How many times does the hoax hoax have to be debunked.  The hoax he was talking about is literally in regards to how the media would portray him like we're talking about here!

Did the democrats twist Trumps words? Sure.

But if we refer to snopes a fact checking website... Trump called it the new "Democrat hoax". - He downplayed the virus, he compared it to the Flu.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-coronavirus-rally-remark/

NightlyPoe said:

Jesus christ.

Regardless of your political convictions, there is going to be press that is supportive and press that is critical of any political head of state...If Obama was in power, then Fox News would be whinging and complaining about how shit of a job he is doing.
If Trump is in power, then CNN would be whinging and complaining about how shit of a job he is doing.

All presidents get treated the damn same... But for some reason Trump supporters act all offended and somehow think that it shouldn't apply to the current president? Common. Lets be realistic here, what is good for one is good for the other.

Umm... No.  Don't even pretend it's equal.  The existence of Fox News does not make up for the water carrying of CNN, MSNBC, all the networks, almost all the major papers, late night, etc.  Frankly, Fox News isn't nearly as bad as most of them.  Their prime time commentators can be over the top (Hannity), but the their overall news was pretty solid back when I was watching it.

Democrats have an infinitely easier time controlling the story and dealing with a press that is sympathetic.

It is equal.

The Murdoch empire who owns Fox news is absolutely catastrophically massive and feeds into all forms of media... And influences the likes of The Wallstreet Journal and The Sun. It is mainstream media, they do fake news as well.

If you don't think there is media narrative that supports Trumps bullshit in a massive chunk of the media, I am not sure what to tell you.

Eitherway... The media bias issue is simply overblown... Essentially it's people chucking a fit because not everything conforms to their political ideology.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_bias_in_the_United_States#Political_bias

NightlyPoe said:

And there are plenty of western models that shows the United States response was an absolute joke.

As I said, the United States is no outlier.  It sounds like you want to pick and choose a few countries that have done better and pretend those countries are the normal.

I will pick and choose my own country that has done far better than the USA. - That universal healthcare system paid off in spades.

NightlyPoe said:

The difference between the united states and other countries is that other countries are not the worlds leading super-power, the United States is supposed to be leading the world with the best of everything isn't it? Clearly. That is not the case.

What is this taunting?  It's an illness, not a pissing contest.

Obviously it is.

If the most powerful country on Earth can't get healthcare right...

NightlyPoe said:

Trump deserves every ounce of criticism he gets.

The issues in the United States, the issues surrounding the Corona-virus in the United States? ALL of those issues start from the very top. Trump. - He is the leader of the -entire- country. He sets the policy, he elects people into positions of influence at every level of governance and so much more.

Trump deserves criticism where criticism is due and his response to this pandemic has been absolutely disgusting... And anyone defending it should be ashamed of themselves as peoples lives are literally being lost.

What?  You think Trump actually did infect people?  What the heck started at the top that caused the disease to get into the country and begin spreading?  Or is it back to "Trump said" nonsense as if half quotes on the internet actually agitated the virus into infecting more people.

Did Trump directly infect people? No. Those aren't my words.

But Trumps laggard response to the virus issue has directly caused the deaths of thousands, we knew about the Virus in December, it started to spread across the planet at a rapid pace in January... Trump only got off his ass and did something in late March... He was to busy whinging about how bad the Democrats are and how perfect he is.

Other Countries also fucked up, the USA isn't alone, but lets give credit where credit is due... Trump fucked up.