Final Fantasy VII Remake Review Thread - Current 88 Metacritic / 89 Opencritic

[Runa216]

JWeinCom said:

Runa216 said:

Care to share? because 'they fight the original chronology' is not a sentence that makes any sense as far as I can decipher it, and what I CAN find of the ending cutscenes don't seem to be that severe of a change (at least not worth the rabid frothing I'm seeing in the thread)

 I don't see any rabid frothing... I see people giving legitimate reasons why what fans were led to expect is not what was provided, and I see people trying to discredit legitimate criticism by referring to it with terms like "rabid frothing".  But, sure, I'll explain what I mean.

Spoiler!

Throughout the game their are characters called the "whispers of fate" who interact with your party in the interest of keeping things consistent with the original storyline.  Towards the end of the game you actually fight these whispers of fate who are trying to keep things consistent with the original storyline.  At which point Aeris says "the future is always a blank page".

The whispers of fate are literally the original timeline (chronology if you will) trying to interact with this new one to prevent it from changing.  And you fight and kill it.  That's what I mean by fighting the original chronology.  And the fact that they went out of their way to have you literally fight a force that's trying to keep the story the same, coupled with a lot of lines about changing destiny, leads to the very reasonable inference that they are planning rather large changes to the original storyline. 

See, this is where we differ. I personally think this 'spoiler' is easily the most interesting, unique, engaging, and fun-sounding twist on the story I've heard so far. I went from 'eeeeh...I guess it'll be fun and I'm getting it because I loved the original so much' to 'holy shit I have to play this and there's so much creative potential there!'

In the end, you are in charge of your own perception of the changes made in an adaptation or retelling or remake. Based on everything I heard the creators say leading up to this, I think this is well within the realm of what we could have expected. Yeah, I guess some people aren't going to like it, but so far it's just...a first step in a direction people don't like or might not like. It's still WAY too early to know if this direction is going to be all that different or not. If it is? Cool! I actually hope it is because the meta-storytelling is interesting to me. (Reminds me of anime and comic books/movies). If it ends up still basically being 90% the same game from here on out, I'm happy with that, too. 

I still think it's WAY too early to know if the direction they're going is good or not. all we know is that it has the potential to be wildly different from the original and what many of us came to expect. Subverting expectations CAN be a good thing and often is (Yeah, I know The Last Jedi was NOT a subversion that most people liked, but that's the exception), so I'm still going to withhold judgement until parts 2 and 3 are released. 

all I see is people eager to be upset about something long before they have any real right to know where this is going. be apprehensive, sure. I get it. but not only have none of you (unless you're in Australia or EU) actually played the game, but parts 2 and 3 aren't even out yet. all we have is conjecture on top of theories and extrapolation. We're about three steps away actually being able to judge this based on the whole. Could it be bad? sure, it could. I don't think it will be. It COULD be the best and most interesting take on the FFVII world we've ever seen, going above and beyond the rest of the franchise to date. We don't know and can't. all I see is people whining that the sanctity of their plotline might very literally be defeated.