PS Now could be an awesome service if it wasn't for Sony.

[Mr Puggsly]

DonFerrari said:

Mr Puggsly said:

You pretend your words don't imply anything, but you're actually making claims.

1. You're suggesting quality is gonna go down because declining software sales and Gamepass. But you don't really know if game budgets have been impacted, gone up or gone down. Its all pointless speculating, but you act as if your speculation is valid.

I`m claiming it CAN nor that it WILL. If you want to pretend that loss in revenue don`t impact available budget then that is on you.

2. MS isn't sustaining their AAA games with Gamepass alone. Therefore that whole argument you're making is pointless. Its also possible many users who don't want to buy full price games are opting for Gamepass thus increasing revenue.

Yes I know they aren`t sustaining with GP. And again without numbers, that MS doesn`t give, we don`t know if they are getting more profits or less, nor the long term effect.

3. If sales or profits go down significantly or stay modest, IPs might just disappear. That generally just happens. You're suggesting Gamepass will cause this happen which hasn't been the case thus far, several years in.

Again, I`m suggesting it CAN not that it WILL. Several years in? There haven`t been a single game that started development after GP was launched, much less a long time passed. For reference PS+ had much better games on PS3 than on PS4, and the biggest reason and change was they looking biggest reason for PS+ was the MP not the games. So let`s wait to see the drivers of GP and MS strategy in the gen before you say there is no way it could happen.

4. I am not saying Gamepass improved the quality of MS software, I am saying MS is improving the quality of their software while running Gamepass. Hence, quality hasn't been impacted by Gamepass. No evidence Gears 5 and Forza Horizon 4 were negatively impacted by Gamepass. Halo:MCC got a massive overhaul and launched Gamepass. Hence, quality has gone up and output is going to increase.

If Halo Infinite is a notable release, I guess that would be more evidence MS is improving quality of their software.

Yes quality have gone so much better that MS was praised all this time for their 1st party efforts right?

But to get back on topic. Is it time for Knack 2 to save PS Now?

I like Knack 2, but have no idea what you want from this point, and does PSNow needs saving? We already discussed that PSNow purpose and strategy isn`t what you want it to be.

1. Revenue in long running IPs has ups and downs. My example was Gran Turismo, its way down in sales. However, the current budget might be bigger than ever because it still sells well enough and more attention is put into visual fidelity.

2. Okay, then there is nothing to really discuss. All we really know is sales on console, PC and Gamepass subscriptions support 1st party games. All of that combined appears to be more revenue than Xbox consoles alone.

3. A concern about Gamepass is games would be rushed out with little quality control. That hasn't happened, its been the opposite actually. You're concerned about what COULD happen, not what is happening. Quality control is still important for actual sales and encouraging subscriptions.

4. What?

PS Now got a massive price cut. I think that's Sony admitting the service is lacking. It needs Knack 2.