Pemalite said:
JRPGfan said:
If new york is like most other places, the majority of the ICU cases are people on ventilators.
Right now thats only "4,376 patients in their ICUs" as someone said, earlier on.
Which is a far cry from the 40,000 worst case outcome their models showed.
However, alot of people have mild symptoms before, they turn bad enough they need a ventilator.
Think back a week or more ago, how many confirmed cases + hospitalised did New York state have then?
If this is the "peak" of new daily cases, and hospitalised,... then a week from now, should be the peak of ICU cases, and ventilators.
Then a week or two, following that, should be the "peak" of deaths.
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I never took much stock of those numbers to start with.
Should be interesting to see how things unfold.
jason1637 said:
The church was closed the 2nd week in March. They probably got it elsewhere.
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Pretty sure some congregations are still open for business?
Either way, even if they "probably" got it elsewhere, they risked giving it to their entire Church... They are assisting in the spread, thoughts and prayers did nothing.
NightlyPoe said:
And at the time the statement was made, he was correct to anyone's knowledge. The comment came before the first case of community spread was discovered the following day. And during his "inaction" he instituted the travel ban from China, set up the task force, mentioned it in the State of the Union, and asked Congress to appropriate money. Oh, and he took the time to speak about unprompted while in India.
Trump's comments during that time period were generally, "Maybe it will, maybe it won't, we'll be prepared" types of comments. That's where all the "downplay" snipped quotes come from. It's the type of crap you can get from piecing together any meandering comments from Trump.
And there weren't even "months" to do any denying. Just two weeks after that first case was discovered, the whole country was shutting down. So, please. Just knock it off. Trump's response wasn't perfect, but you're completely re-writing history and trying to cram extra months between the end of February and mid-March. If anything, Trump did better than the average president because (as much as it grates to hear him use it over and over) he did issue that travel ban when most presidents would have bowed to China. Without those travel restrictions, we probably get hit around the same time as Europe without the advanced warning of how bad it can be from Italy.
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The Corona Virus was gaining traction in November, 2019. - That is when we should have started to take action the world over.
When did trump take action? That video was late Feb, 2020.
He asserted they had the virus "under control". - That the "numbers are smaller than just about anybody". - And here we are today, the complete opposite of his statements.
https://therecount.com/watch/daily-recount-april-5th-2020/2645643680
SpokenTruth said:
This is the problem. When you don't know, don't say shit.
If data and information are limited, then you say data and information are limited. Instead, Trump downplayed it. Over and over and over.
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That's just it. You don't make assertions before you have all the facts... And evidence. And Trump dribbles rubbish constantly.
He doesn't need defending, he made the statements, he's an Adult.
My partner is an Ambulance officer, I was an Aged and Disability Carer years ago and now a Firefighter and an Emergency Services Officer, so the clinical aspect to all of this and it's effect on certain population demographics isn't exactly new to me... And even then something like a "Mild Flu" without an appropriate vaccine to protect the vulnerable would be absolutely devastating to various populations.
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I feel like Nations with universal healthcare systems seem to be doing really well in handling this... And systems like the USA's seem to be all over the shop.
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