Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[vivster]

John2290 said:

vivster said:

That's not how things will happen. It's simply unfeasible to wait until everyone had the disease or until there is a vaccine. Some restrictions can be easily lowered, not that current restrictions are even that hard. One thing that could be done is mandatory masks. People can leave their homes on their own risk while lowering their potential to infect others significantly.

We don't have to wait until every single person is either immune or vaccinated so that life can start to happen again. It just needs to be suppressed enough, exactly like we do it with every other infectious disease. Mark my words, life will go on as usual long before even half of the population is vaccinated or immune.

edit: before people go literal nazi on me again, with "life as usual" I include life as usual with light restrictions, such as public distancing, mandatory face masks in crowded places or even regular mandatory tests.

Maybe but the much smarter and safer option is yo wait until we can teat so much that tracking clusters will be near full proof and containment can be kept up. If they get the data, the testing and matched with our current computing tech outbreaks should never exceed a local community. I don't think any western country is in a position to gamble on Herd immunity without guaranteed tracking or this massive economical fuck up would have been for nothing. What I'm saying is, expect the governments to play it as safe as possible in countries that aren't living hand to mouth, day to day. I think tagging and tracking along with prolonged  and total isolation of the vulnerable until a vaccine is the plan most governemnts will fall to as long as they still have the credit to do so. 

Getting multiple bigger waves of the virus with spaced out prolonged lockdowns might be the way to go. The state has to take money from somewhere and it won't be able to do that if it doesn't get some money. People won't get money without providing it, that's what economy is all about.

Stretched out sporadic slumps might be better to handle than one single complete collapse. Like taking a loan. Sure, you pay overall more due to interest, but it's better than having to pay everything upfront. Humans aren't min-maxable.