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DonFerrari said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Don is trying to argue semantics. I am arguing Sony could do better than Knack.

Maybe I am misinterpreting what you're saying, but I don't think the goal of Gamepass is to sustain all gaming software coming from MS.

More importantly, this isn't a console war debate. I think PS Now is cool for what it is, but PS Now sucking at 1st party PS4 games is just a Sony issue.

I already agreed before that Sony could put better games than Knack on the service. Still your premise is that it could be better if it weren't for Sony.

You probably are. The goal of Gamepass is to make profit. And having it with low price, and filled with AAA games every 3 months plus several 3rd parties AAA is something that is extremely costly and thus why some of us think this business model can make quality and scope drop.

Sony has the ability to add more 1st party games to PS Now, but they're also grossly limiting what 1st party games get added. I named a bunch of games that could be added even before the heavy hitters.

Based on your response, it seems you're saying exactly what I thought. Our perspectives on Gamepass are different. Your response suggests you see Gamepass as its own thing, I see it as an additional revenue stream.

I'll keep it short and simple. Since all Xbox games started coming to PC and Gamepass was created, software quality has actually gone up and MS has acquired many new studios. You anticipate quality will go down, but that hasn't happened. I suspect revenue has actually gone up because games are selling better with the added PC support and Gamepass actually brings in additional revenue.

I once thought MS probably spends a good chunk of the Gamepass revenue on 3rd party content. But then I used PS Now, which has significantly more 3rd party games at a lower price. Hence, I bet MS spends much less Gamepass revenue on 3rd party content than Sony does with PS Now. MS instead relies on 1st party games to push subscriptions and has had more success in regard to subscriber numbers.

Anyhow, none of that really matters. What MS does with Gamepass has nothing really to do with PS Now. I clarified multiple times I don't expect PS Now to become Gamepass.



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