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vivster said:
John2290 said:

Nah, you should be getting excecise and sun, keep your immune system up to help the health services. If ya can't get a walk, at least get sun on a roof or balcony, it's a mood boost too so when shit gets tough at least we'll be cheery. Thank god for the coming summer. 

You can get both exercise and sun within your home. Going outside for that while complaining that others don't respect quarantines is just a dick move.

Quarantine != Social distancing. Not blaming you, but it seems some people can't understand the difference. The virus transmits by close proximity / contact over a period of time. South Korea is the proof of that where the current measures prevent spread in hospitals. Stay 2 meters apart, always cover your cough, don't touch surfaces, don't touch your face, wash your hands and you will be fine.

If you are sick you should quarantine yourself, check for fever every morning, stay in when you have a cough or other symptoms. It is not necessary for everyone to stay locked inside, it is necessary to stay the fuck away from each other (unless you live with them on daily basis anyway)

My kids don't visit their grandparents anymore for now. My brother in law still does and is an unknown in contact with more ways of transmission :/ With Ontario so far behind on testing, it's better to close that door for now considering my wife's underlying conditions. They also don't get to play with their friends anymore (except online of course) but can still go outside with us.

It's a bit of a problem in big cities where there might not be enough space to stay apart. Out here in rural areas it doesn't make sense to lock people in their homes. Just not necessary. If it is a problem in big cities, simple things like even house numbers can go out on even days and odds on odd days will solve that problem. Yet for now people are still grouping up and even having quarantine parties... I praised the park for being empty yesterday, well that didn't last. Late afternoon (not long after parks and recreation came by to check) it filled up, people walking together, people playing basketball together, good way to pass the virus along... It's people like these that make it worse than it has to be for all of us.

Go play badminton, frisbee or any other non close contact sport if you have to play with a friend. Greet from a distance, bring your own equipment, wash it before you go and when you're done just in case, wash your hands before and after, don't touch your face. Simple precautions.



Back to virus tracking, I made a couple charts with avg growth comparisons up to the 26th.

First grapth, growth comparison of Europe and USA vs the World.

The average growth factor in Europe was 1.151 for the past 5 days, slightly below the predicted average of 1.16
The average growth factor in the USA was 1.195 for the past 5 days, still catching up on testing.
The average for the world was 1.141, many more countries outside the USA and Europe still have dodgy testing.

Europe currently represents 53.9% of total detected cases. (321.7K as of yesterday)
The USA currently represents 17.5% of total detected cases. (104.1K as of yesterday) and is 7 days behind Europe.
The world now has 7.3x as many cases as there are in China (596.4K as of yesterday)

Europe is responsible for 58.1% of daily growth and 79.2% of daily deaths
USA is responsible for 28.5% of daily growth and 10.8% of daily deaths
Europe is slowing down while the USA is still speeding up.


Second graph, comparing the corners of the world.

China, still importing cases trying to contain them not to get a second out break.
South Korea, an early super spreader got the country up to speed, stable for now.
Iran getting testing up to speed, way behind on that part considering the death rate.
Canada started early, still having problems with testing but schools and most non essentials are closed.
Australia slowly ramping up.
Brazil not willing to do anything for now.


Bottom row Europe.

Italy reached the top of the curve for growth, but isn't going down much yet.
Spain and Germany have passed Italy in daily added cases, Spain is also close to passing Italy in daily deaths.
France isn't slowing down much yet, but is about 10 days behind on Italy for lock downs.
Sweden, Norway and Denmark all ramped up their testing early when the first symptomatic cases were detected.
This might have given a false sense of 'being on top of the virus', it's still increasing not unlike others.


The measures are helping, Italy has flattened out, Europe's growth is slowing down. How high the peak in cases will be is still hard to say. The USA is chasing Europe, when it will pass Europe depends on the fallout of spring break and many states not doing much yet.