Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[Eagle367]

John2290 said:

Eagle367 said:

I think you are blaming China unreasonably here. Your bias is a showing a little as well. When the American president calls it the Chinese virus, you can't really ,ale any claims about propaganda with a straight face unless you are neutral and not allied with or fighting against either. China didn't do the best job in stopping the virus but then again, China isn't to blame for the worst hit regio ns outside chins like US and Italy. Those countries weren't taking it seriously and the blame lies on them, not Chian for that. South Korea, Singapore and other regions handled it much better and the credit goes to the, as well. Anyone not taking this pandemic seriously is to blame. It doesn't really matter where it originated that much. It only matters who contained it and who didn't and when can a vaccine be made.

That's noy my bias showing, I've been blaming China for this long before Trump was blaming China, I've blaming China since before I knew who Trump was. China is a shit country with a shit system, The CCP are litteral pyschopaths on business suits and have no respect for life on a cummunity level let alone an individual level. 

The Chinese people? I have nothing against them aside from the ones who knowingly accept the chinese machine. I'm not racist because I hate the worst governmental and political machine created in human history,  i hate a thing, not a person or peoples. And yes, they are very much responsible for this by not regulating in the years they had available in the same way they are responsible for killing their own citizens with collapsing buildings by skipping key safety and standardized building procedures or bridges because they chose speed and profit over human life. 

Now if they sit up and say they will help, make good on that and change the way they do things to something more sustainable I wouldn't have a problem with them and don't let the media fool you, most of whom the CCP have financial stake in along with nearly every other fucking industry, the chinese people, outside of government for the most part feel the same as me and I've seen that as early as 2009 when I started taking notice and people were ripped from communities to try and buold some fuex western model. Fuck China. Remember that time in the late 00's when they built 36 cities sized for millions of people? Look into it and look into hiw they attempted to fill those ghost cities and where they succeed and failed. It will ruin your day most likely but it should give you an idea of why china is the villian in a B tier sci fi film.

Not once did I mention Trump. I mentioned the US which isn't only Trump. The red scare existed before Trump and it will exist after. But if you want to mention villains in a B tier film, boy howdy do you got to look into US history and the comical villany of the new world empire. Sorry but the US is responsible after the virus left China and so is Italy for not taking this seriously. China is responsible to some extent but to a large extent, the governments where things are crazy are responsible all on their own. The virus reached the shores of Italy before even China knew it was a new virus and Italy didn't take it seriously. The countries that did are doing better. Simple as that.

And you wanna talk about bad systems? The US is up there as well. You wanna talk about propaganda and everything else, the US is also there. If you wanna have a serious discussion about governments, Fuck China, Fuck US and Fuck Russia and the UK, but to blame China for the shortcomings of the US is just as idiotic as taking offense when someone points out the education that was given to the Cuban people after Castro or the healthcare or to ignore that China lifted the most number of people out of poverty in a short time than any nation or empire before it. 

The blame for everything that happened since knowing the virus existed and was dangerous is on the US, is on Italy and is on any nation that didn't take this seriously. And I will say again, regarding world governments, Fuck US, Fuck China, Fuck Russia, Fuck Saudi Arabia, Fuck Israel. If you say China is bad but ignore the others, there is bias and hypocrisy. More than a million innocents dead by the war the capitalist Us started and that's just one example. The situation of the Yemeni and Palestinians on top of that. Hell Russia might be the least bad of these examples and Russia is really bad. The US is worse for the world than China and I stand by that statement until the US or China prove me otherwise.