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NightlyPoe said:

BTW, is there any doubt that China's statistics are a complete fiction at this point? Somehow, this started in the most densely populated central China city in a highly densely populated country that was spreading with no one even being aware of its existence until it had already killed enough people for doctors to notice it, and even then they covered it up for weeks afterwards.

Yet, somehow, we're to believe that even though the spread had gone unchecked for basically months only managed to get to about 80,000 citizens?

It did not go on unchecked for months. It started in November or December (not sure if the guardian is all that reliable), in Januari the WHO was on top of it. Wuhan and other cities went on total lockdown on Januari 23rd. Not the soft social distancing we do here, no military style lock down. The sick got isolated quickly, locked in their homes. Januari 23rd China had 830 confirmed cases, but likely many more unconfirmed. They took it very seriously and still it increased to over 80K cases total. A lot of the measures are still ongoing.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/13/first-covid-19-case-happened-in-november-china-government-records-show-report
https://www.newscientist.com/term/covid-19/
https://www.vox.com/2020/3/2/21161067/coronavirus-covid19-china
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/19/chinas-coronavirus-lockdown-strategy-brutal-but-effective

Educate yourself before starting conspiracy theories.

Last edited by SvennoJ - on 21 March 2020