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DonFerrari said:
goopy20 said:

It's a bit different with games like TLOU and Ghost of Tsushijima as they will come out before the ps5 launch. They will no doubt get remasters, even if that is a bit harder to sell with MS's announcement of smart delivery. However. I'm sure that the rest of of Sony's 1st party studios are currently working on ps5 exclusives that will skip ps4 and will be 100% optimized specifically for that 1 console. The Series X has amazing specs and I can only hope Sony will match them, but the Series X will be held back by MS's odd cross platform strategy. Even if it's just 1 year with the X1, the remainder of the next gen console generation their games will also have to run on the 4Tflops Series S. 

We will see how 3rd party developers respond to this but it can only go 2 ways.

1. They will use ps5 as the base console and the Series S versions will run with some serious compromises like 720p.

2. They will use Series S as the base console and aim for 1080p. Games will be held back across the board because of it and we just get higher res/ fps versions on ps5/ Series X.

It all depends. Sony may decide for MS course with free updates and crossbuy because of the BC and the system load the best version you can play depending on the system. So it can't be assured anything about what Sony will do on giving patches or selling port.

Still I already said that probably all titles after GoT will be exclusive to PS5, still that won't make that much of difference, even more because usually PS is light on exclusives on launch.

3rd party will be crossgen for most titles on the first 2 years, so you are basically answering yourself (as most players buy consoles for the 3rd parties). You are seeing to much doom for a difference between PS5 exclusives versus the 3rd party cross gen and MS crossgen titles. I have no doubt PS5 will be better, look better and even play better, and that the difference will be visible, still that won't be the reason PS5 will sell 2:1 to Xbox totals. That is only one of the several reasons and probably not even the biggest one.

Yeah I also see Sony doing something with cross buy, I just don't like this "best version of a game" thing. I would much rather see developers focus on a single platform and really try to get the best results out of it like we've always seen on consoles. Having a bunch of different SKU's with wildly different specs makes me slightly worried which one they'll end up using as the base console, though.

It's a bit like the X1X or a high-end pc. They're great but nobody makes games that were designed from the ground up to take full advantage of the extra horse power. I mean the X1X is 4 times more powerful than the Xone but it's not like games look 4 times better on it. They look sharper and run at a higher fps, but that's mostly it. On pc it's the same thing, you can play ps4 games at 4k and ultra settings but a RTX2080 could do helluva lot more. Just to give you an idea, here's a tech demo that's running on a single 1080ti gpu. It probably doesn't run at native 4k on a 1080ti but it's a pretty big leap from what we're seeing today on current gen consoles, because it wasn't designed to run on a bunch of different devices: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKu1Y-LlfNQ

Also, check out this tech demo running on a ps4 pro at 720p: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lhpn96bbzkk

Last edited by goopy20 - on 17 March 2020