| Stellar_Fungk said: I don’t know, man. First party console games should stick to their respective console. If I wanna play Sony games I buy a PS4. HZD was made with that console in mind. What if Nintendo games release on PC. Oh the horror. I think exclusivity will die this generation and Microsoft started it :( |
Exclusives are anti-consumer, it means you have to pay more to play more games, why do consumers want that? Oh that's right, because they are consumers not customers, consumers eat up anything companies tell them while customers shop around.
| Cerebralbore101 said: The 360 halved Sony's userbase? https://www.vgchartz.com/analysis/platform_totals/ 157 million divided by two does not equal 87 million. 1. It had amazing legs. Just look at these post 2006 shipment numbers! https://web.archive.org/web/20120609161654/scei.co.jp/corporate/data/bizdataps2_e.html 2. The consoles it competed against were all from either companies new to the console business (Microsoft), or trying to recover from a serious last gen decline (Sega/Nintendo). 3. Being a cheap DVD player helped drive sales. The DVD format was a revolutionary improvement over VHS. Nearly everybody wanted a DVD player, and PS2 was a DVD player that could also play games. It cost the same or less as other DVD players of the early 2000s. So up until 2009 or whenever the slim came out there was a massive failure rate, causing people to buy 2nd, 3rd, and 4th 360's. I went through three of the things, and didn't even bother getting a PS3 until 2008! Now let's remember that 360 had a full year's launch ahead of PS3. So adjust another 4-5 million downward. Xbox is on the surge upwards, your lack of respect for the PS5s competitor is exactly what happen when the PS3 launched against the 360. XB1 sales have been in the 40,000 to 50,000 range in weekly sales for the past 8-10 months. That's not a surge upwards. That's a precipitous decline. Perhaps you meant surge upwards in some hazy, non-objective, marketing terms? In that case, the color black is more appealing to me personally, than the color green, therefore Xbox Series X will clearly lose the battle, based solely on my personal non-objective preferences. Good argument isn't it? (Hint: It's not.) |
360 RROD was covered by warranty and MS spent $1.5b to fix the issue, even with spending $1.5b the 360 still lost less money than the PS3.
My point is with healthy competition, the userbase divides, Sony went from 150m customers to 80m, Xbox went from 30m customers to 80m and Nintendo went from 20m customers to 100m customers. This gen the competition wasn't healthy until the S and Switch released however that was midway through the generation.
The surge of Xbox is being missed read for some odd reason. I am not referring to this generation I am referring to the Xbox brand and the decision making and next gen planning. Xbox is going to be bigger next gen. As others have mentioned, its what MS is building upon for next gen. If you think Sony is just going to walk out the gate with PS2 or PS4 numbers expecting no competition from Xbox or Nintendo than you need to take the glasses for a min and look around you.
Next gen is looking more like Gen 7 if the competition remains heavily competitive with no slip ups.
Also half of 157m is 78m which is very close to 87m. Which rounds out to be half.
The 360 also sold 1b software on a platform that sold less than 90m consoles, its the only console to achieve that milestone so thats a feat in itself and guess what makes more money.. suprise, the software, the PS3 sold less software overall to the 360 aswell.
At the End of the day, the more competition can lead to a more level playing field like we saw last gen. In this case, if all 3 brands have great consoles at launch than expect tight sales between the 3.
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