Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[Nautilus]

John2290 said:

Nautilus said:

I don't disagree with some of the measures being taken, like China isolating some cities, or even prohibiting flights from Europe to US for a time, but closing stores down?Forcibly?It's far more likely that you catch the damn disease in the streets, while sitting on a bench, than going shopping for groceries or a game.

I don't know man.I get some measures, but somethings are pushing too far.Big companies can survive having 30% of their business frozen for a month(specially with a good reason, since they can get some kind of deal with the government as form of "payment" for their help, so that they keep their employees job without ruining the business), but what about small business?Family business?The kind of companies that closing for a month could spell being on the red for the rest of the year or more, and thus having to let go some of their employees?

I don't know how long those measures will be enforced, but it will be at least for a month.And until April, i truly believe the situation will only get worse.What does those companies do then?Stay closed for 1,2 maybe 3 months, while still having to pay their employees and their expenses, with zero money comming in?

Just feel like this decision will only create another problem in the next 6 months that will last much longer than this virus.

It's the catch 22 I've been ranting about in this thread for the last week, it needs to be done with precision but best be forceful now and scale back towards reasonable when the stats on the sick start coming in as they lag weeks behind and then meet that precision point safely rather than scaling it up from the other end and having the hospitals overrun. Thankfully the worlds banks and reserves are pumping money at the problem to buy some time.

I can't speak for the US because I've been following it vaguely and more focused on my own country and EU nations but if it causes problems six months down the road at least we'll be there to meet them, we won't be if there is a weak response now and it turns out to be an Italy for every country who fall apart hard at the same time. I don't think even the Goverenents or the experts have the answers to the problems you are suggesting and we'll see it play out in real time but this forceful approach is certainly the safest bet right now, it's not a time to gamble. In the EU small businesses are being covered and I hope the US follows that also, but at least if they the owners won't be left with nothing to rebuild on when this is over. And six months? More like two years for a vaccine ready for mass distribution at best going by history (likely more but maybe less with current technology) this initial wave being the worst and hardest to get through since it is happening to everyone at once with limited time to react and then there will be more confined and localized outbreaks like the flu which will be easier to deal with and mitigate going into 2021 and beyond, hopefully then we'll have a vaccine in mass production. 

At the end of the day, these small businesses will have a time to boom after all this, just lets get to that point with as few deaths as possible and without society collapsing. Priorities, man.

Society won't collapse.We have been through far worse outbreaks, and a weaker one won't be the one to outdue society.Honestly, the biggest danger of this coronavirus outbreak is the internet.How the news are breaking out, how people are handling it(poorly in my opinion) is the biggest reason why this whole situation is shitty right now.My opinion anyways.

Either way, I don't quite agree with what you are saying.The government can't save them all, and if they are going to choose, they will be going with the big companies.And even if they had help, depending on how much damage this damn disease brings, it might take years to recover.Plus with how much importance is being given to this, and how technology has grown over the years, I honestly believe we might have a vaccine for the corona by June.

At this point I just want this whole situation to be done with.