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goopy20 on 09 March 2020
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sales2099 said:
goopy20 said:

Of course it's still a decent upgrade but it's still a 50% downgrade from the ps5, which will probably be the base console for most developers. And if they would use Series S as the base, that would suck major donkey balls to be honest. We can forget about ray tracing and overall visual fidelity will be compromised across the board if that would happen. Just like Witcher 3 got downgraded when they decided to release it on consoles too.

I don't want next gen graphics to take a leap from a GTX660 to the ancient GTX780, I want it to be a leap to RTX2080 level performance. Maybe it's just me, but I really see no reason why any core gamer would actually be excited if Lockhart exists. It's maybe something for people who can't or don't want to spend $500 on a new console at launch, but those people can also just wait a bit for a price drop. But why would any gamer want to see developers use a $299 Lockhart with compromised specs as the base console for next gen games for the coming 7 years?

This may come as a shock to you, but most gamers don’t go online to talk about video games. Most don’t care about having the absolute most power. Most casually play games like COD/FIFA/fortnight/Apex legends/GTA5 etc. Gaming isn’t a big part of their lives nor is it part of their identity. It’s just something they do when they got a few hours to kill. 

Core gamers number the least millions of a console consumer base. We are the “whales” of the industry but are far from the majority. We just have our voices heard the loudest because we actively participate in discussion and outreach to the devs. 

If these people just want to play next gen games without the bells and whistles that say the Series X provides, then more power to them. So long as core gamers like me get the Series X I could care less. 

We could debate on what a "core" gamer is, but to me it's anyone who plays the latest AAA games like GTA, COD etc. Maybe not everyone cares or understands anything about the technical specs, but even my 90-year-old granny understands the concept of you get what you pay for. People will automatically assume there's a reason why it's cheaper and that they'll get a compromised version of GTA6 compared to their buddy's on ps5. Truth is we live in a world where teenagers carry $1000 phones with them and nobody knows or cares what kind of hardware is in them. So is $99 really going to make that much of a difference? We also know that the masses are fine with paying at least $399 for a console, so why make it $299?

The only thing that can come from this is that Series X will be an even harder sell. For the first 2 years MS exclusives on Series X will be hold back by going cross-gen with the Xone. And the remainder of the console generation it will be hold back by Series S's gpu that's 3 times weaker. I just don't see how developers could really make good use of something like Ray Tracing if they constantly have to think "Will this work on 4Tflops too?" 

I get why people might think the Series X will be native 4k and Series S will be 1080p. But ask anyone who knows anything about game design and they'll tell you that resolution will have the least priority with a next gen console. Just look at how many games are 720p on Xone. If the only difference between Series X and S will be that it runs the same games at 4 times the resolution (which most people will barely notice), it just means the developers did a crappy job because it could have been 4 times the overall visual fidelity.  

Last edited by goopy20 - on 09 March 2020