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Cobretti2 said:
I think what the OP is trying to say in one sentence is

"Calm your titties console gamers, TFLOPs means nothing and PC master race still ahead with their GFORCE GPUs."

Pretty much. 

JRPGfan said:
ArchangelMadzz said:

I eluded to that toward the end with comparing the likely power to a current AMD GPU in the 5700XT.

But even then if it has a lower TDP which it will do, then it won't run as good as a desktop variant depending on how much lower that power rating is. 

This is mainly for people saying "WEll tHAat's MoRe TeRaFLoPs ThAn a 2080"

Playstation 5 + Xbox Series X, are BOTH confirmed to be useing RDNA 2.

Its about 50% more effecient in terms of Performance/watt, than a RDNA1 card is, according to AMD.

This means, that even if Playstation 5, uses less power on the GPU than a current 5700XT card does, it could beat it in performance.

power consumption:

5700 XT   ~25% less power used than a 2080ti.

performance:

5700 XT  about ~ 17% slower than a Geforce 2080 ti.

(this is on pc side, with drivers, and games optimised for nvidia bullcrap ect... on consoles differnce would be even smaller)

Now imagine a +50% performance pr watt gain from RDNA1 -> RDNA 2.

Its totally possbily that if consoles are 12 Tflops as rumored, they could be around equal to a Geforce 2080 ti.

"This is mainly for people saying "WEll tHAat's MoRe TeRaFLoPs ThAn a 2080"" - Archangel.


Would you like to dispute any of the arguements above, that says its possible to do so?
Playstation 5 + Xbox Series X are gonna be quite powerfull (imo).

17% Slower?

Your graph shows the highest end 5700 XT is 37% Slower than a 2080ti. And the base 5700 XT is 45% slower.

Imo the 2080ti is completely out of reach and if the new PS5/Xbox Series X can match it's performance I will request a permaban of my account fro a mod.

The new consoles have a chance of catching up to a 2070 super and Ryzen 7 3700x combination (although those 2 components combined cost £750, but I'll lower to £550 for bulk buying, cheaper mobile chip variants and removing the Nvidia Tax) And that's before any cooling, motherboard, controllers with a much higher  power budget.

But judging by the numbers you've shown, I will ask for a permaban if the new consoles match a 2080ti. 

Edit: My Actual prediction is RTX 2060 super equivalent.

Edit,2: I forgot to include the expensive likely 1TB nvme SSD storage in my mockup price components.

Last edited by ArchangelMadzz - on 09 March 2020

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