Eagle367 said:
You are the prime example of why Joe will lose. He has no chance of expanding his base. The democrats that will vote for Joe will also vote for Bernie, just like Clinton. The republicans will vote for Trump over Joe, like you are and just like Clinton. If anyone has a ceiling, it's a moderate corporatist democrat. The imaginary conservative democrat voter doesn't exist and there's no use going there. The aim is to get people to vote who don't. And those are the people Bernie does best with, whether the youth or the independents. That's why I said to mobilize and drag the youth to vote because they have become too apathetic to all parties. They believe the DNC will rig it anyways so what's the use anyways. But if Bernie wins the primaries, they are much more likely to come out and vote in the general than the primaries. The best chance of beating Trump is Bernie. Trump can beat Bernie but it's harder for him. Trump can more easily beat Joe. Finally, to be honest, I don't get your stance. If you are pro-life, universal healthcare and education should be a priority. Someone who is living by doesn't have enough money for healthcare seems to be more important than a clot of cells that haven't even specialized into brain cells or heart cells or other organs. I don't endorse killing babies but even the latest of abortions aren't carried out on babies. There is a process to becoming a human baby and the cut off is vague but intelligent policy can be made to differentiate between a baby and a precursor to a baby. I'm against late stage abortion as well, but m also against the already born people dying or being homeless because they are poor. Trump does a lot more anti-life things than most democrats and Bernie is more pro-life than most other politicians. |
I believe life in the womb is a baby, no matter what stage. I don't know what pro lifer doesn't think that. Therefore any abortion is murder. And like I said, I'm not straight Republican with everything, who knows which party is vote for I'd abortion was resolved. I certainly don't like elderly, poor, widows, etc. Being abused and left to die either. All of it is terrible. But those people can at least protest, speak up to defend themselves, literally ask people for help (even begging in the streets), whereas babies in the womb are completely helpless to the decision of their mothers. The only thing they can do is try to squirm away from the torturous device that is attempting to chop their body up, as has been shown and documented. They are the most vulnerable and so they are the priority. There's been over 50 million abortions in America since Roe v. Wade. It's devastating.
Once it is outlawed by the Supreme Court I will then focus my shift on supporting other vulnerable groups that are being left in desperate situations.
