vivster said: It really is quite dumb. Basically all of the deaths were people with preexisting conditions or without access to proper healthcare. I actually find it a bit disingenuous to count every single death as caused by corona even if the person had already bad health to begin with. I mean a normal cold can knock out someone with full blown aids or a respiratory disease but we would never count that as a death caused by cold. The virus has shown that it is overall very weak and will cause no or very mild symptoms in the vast majority of people. It obviously cannot deal well with a functioning immune system. Which makes it equal to many mild diseases we deal with on a daily basis. Give it another year and this pandemic will become simply endemic and nobody will even give a shit. Compare this with the recent surge of people condemning vaping while they're still completely fine with smokers killing themselves and others in the millions. 1 billion people who are slowly killing themselves and others? Completely fine. 100k people who have a little sneeze? GLOBAL HEALTH CRISIS! |
On average 15% of active cases are considered serious/critical and need to be hospitalized, with many in the ICU on ventilators to get through this disease. Yes, it's primarily the old and those with pre-existing conditions not surviving, but there are many more needing serious care.
This was the tally in Italy yesterday
778 new cases and 49 new deaths in Italy. Total cases: 4,636. Total deaths: 197. Active cases: 3,916.
- Among the 3,916 active cases, 2,394 (61%) are hospitalized, 462 of which (representing 12% of active cases) are in intensive care.
- Among the 720 closed cases, 523 (73%) have recovered, 197 (27%) have died.
We simply do not have the capacity to hospitalize that many people if the current trend continues. China had the resources to build giant field hospitals and get the best equipment to keep people alive. Some other patients did suffer though as entire wings of hospitals were reserved for covid-19 patients. Death rate will unfortunately go up once the healthcare system can't keep pace anymore.
Are you suggesting just to let it play itself out, another flu strain culling the weak? Btw sneezing is not a symptom.
Today:
1,247 new cases and 36 new deaths in Italy [source]
Percentage of deaths by age group:
90+ years old: 6% of deaths
80 - 89 years old: 42% of deaths
70 - 79 years old: 35% of deaths
60 - 69 years old: 16% of deaths
- Among the 5,061 active cases, 3,218 (55%) are hospitalized, 567 of which (representing 11% of active cases) are in intensive care
- Among the 822 closed cases, 589 (72%) have recovered, 233 (28%) have died