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sundin13 said:
Dulfite said:

Not that I would call him that as I am not him nor his doctor so I have no idea what is going on with him, nor is it my business to know if he had a diagnosis, but how exactly do you justify his smelling of girl's hair, doing awkwardly long hugs with women when they are trying to break away (Hillary Clinton), and creepily and firmly holding on to women's shoulders while he leans forward to whisper in their ear? How does someone justify that kind of behavior if he doesn't have issues going on?

It's one thing to say creepy things (Trump). It's another to physically do them repeatedly on live TV.

My ex-girlfriend's grandmother would basically force me to kiss her every time she visited even though I was uncomfortable. Was she a pedo sexual predator or just an old person? Like, old people do that shit all the time. It is weird? Sure, but we have a President who has been accused by, what, twenty women of rape, sexual assault or sexual harassment and you want to talk to me about long hugs? Come on...

This shouldn't be a conversation given that context.

I believe in innocence until proven guilty with everyone. With Biden I've seen video of him doing weird things. With Trump we only have audio (that I'm aware of at least) and even that was to another man about women, not to a woman directly. So, because I believe in that principle for all people, I have to judge things based on what has physically happened for us to see. I've physically seen Biden do creepy physical things. I have not seen Trump do creepy physical things to people. 

Trump may very well be guilty with all twenty of those women, or not. I can't judge that as I didn't see any of that nor was I there when they apparently happened.

I would hate for someone to accuse me of something and people just believe it. That would be incredibly terrible.