The LGBT thread (Revisited)

[Runa216]

JWeinCom said:

Runa brought up sexuality.

Segregated bathrooms potentially reduce abuse (I don't know, I haven't really read studies).  Even if they don't, they tend to make women, at least in America, feel safer.  And people here at least just tend to prefer it this way.  So why exactly would we want to change that?  I would be open to changing it, but only if there were some benefit to doing so.  

I know this isn't what you're doing, but your argument reminds me entirely too much of the 'gays are ruining the sanctity of marriage' argument. The idea that 'two men can't raise a kid as well as a man and a woman becuase a man and a woman is how it's always been' is just wrong, no studies support the stance, and if anything the research done into it has shown the opposite. but, appealing to the masses or appealing to tradition works, it gets people to believe what you're saying.

Your argument here about split-gender bathrooms really doesn't hold any water. you even said 'I don't know, I haven't really read studies' when defending your stance. Your argument seems to stem less from any real digging, research, or logical progression but more of an appeal to 'well this is how I'm used to it and I can't be convinced any other way is better'. Your assertions are outright wrong or circumstantial, your points are misleading, and almost none of your actual arguments are anything more than 'ewww, I don't wanna share a bathroom', and are justifying it with outright wrong stats about assault happening in bathrooms that SOUND right (Because Men can suck, for sure) but aren't accurate (Because it's not men, it's shitty people in general and it CAN happen both ways). 

Your stance is, at its core, sexist. It assumes that all men (or at least a larger percentage of men) are shitty, scummy, could-be rapists and putting them in unisex bathrooms with women is just asking the women to get raped. IT's just not how it works. when unisex bathrooms are implemented, there's no significant difference in assault happening. Period. But you seem uncomfortable with the idea so you're making shit up that sounds right to justify your stance. Please don't do that, it doesn't help. IF you're uncomfortable with something, that's fine. You're allowed to have an opinion. But please don't masquerade that personal feeling as a fact. That's not how we make progress in these troubled times.