Is Bidens campaign dead? (EDIT: Well, this was turned around completely.)

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Dulfite said:

axumblade said:

Eh....I wouldn't call either of them outright Socialists. Bernie is a Democratic Socialist, which is still not completely left, just more left than any other other candidates. Warren is a Capitalist with some Socialist ideas. 

Democratic Socialist is a mouthful and I'd imagine to most Americans they couldn't distinguish the two if their ideas were on a T chart. In any case, I can't use liberals and moderates now, because the moderates have become liberal and the liberals have become ultra liberal. 

Republican party has swung hard right with Tea Party and Trump with the judges. Democrats have swung far left with Green New Deal. There aren't really moderates represented anymore.

The republicans have moved to the right ever since Reagan, but the Tea party has certainly accelerated that move. Trump is the provisional conclusion of that movement.

Meanwhile calling the democrats as far left is from an European oint of view just laughable. The democratic party as a whole would be considered a center-right party over here, with Sanders and to a lesser degree Warren more fitting in a social democratic party. Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist, but he's too far to the right to truly adhere to that ideal, and got called out for this from actual democratic socialists.