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Slownenberg said:
victor83fernandes said:

DS has sold almost 155 million, I don't think the switch will reach that, I don't even think the ps4 will reach that, they might pass the Gameboy, maybe.

Reason is - DS was a total portable device and was backwards compatible with GB advance, there's really something that the switch cant do, close the device so the screen is protected and put it in the pocket or bag. You can always get a case for the switch, which will make it even bulkier and its not as good as just opening the screen and play, true portable device.

Also price and durability, most these portable devices are sold to parents who buy them for their kids, specially on Christmas, I'd say 75% of all portables, so it makes sense if parents want to spend less money on the gift.

Also, games for DS were much cheaper, so people could justify more a DS as they could get more games + they could run their old GB advance games.

Also, a lot of the DS market was adults/elders wanting to play puzzle games like brain training and such, so they were basically not gamers, they just wanted to play puzzles, cards and sudoku with the pen, which was perfect for that type, specially with the dual screen, the switch doesn't have that.

I remember back in the day I actually bought one mainly for that, because I never play out of the house, so my DS was a puzzle machine, but my switch I bought it as the next Nintendo home console, not as a portable.

Lets be honest, take out the puzzle market and the total portable market and market for people who want cheap games, and that means the switch will never reach those sales, because its only sold to gamers.

The switch adds the old Nintendo home console market, but most are the old fans like myself, looking at the gamecube and N64, that means around 25-30 million consoles for the fans, which most already bought one.

As one of the biggest Nintendo fans since the early 90s, I wish Nintendo would just make another powerful home console instead of a very underpowered hybrid, I already saw Breath of the wild running on a good PC with 4K and AA, it looks way better, and that's what we could be having on Nintendo consoles.

Eww nobody wants that, that'd be a terrible decision. Also they don't have an underpowered hybrid, what they have is an overpowered portable that can be played hybrid. Saying the Switch is underpowered is just crazy - it can play current console games with some downgraded graphics...and its a portable! In no world is that underpowered. Nobody wants a $400 Nintendo system that competes for the exact same market as Xbox and PS. Nintendo's business excels when they think outside the box and give people what they didn't even know they wanted. The high powered clone console market is full with two competing for that title, while the Nintendo enjoys massive success by choosing an overlapping but slightly different market. You want way better looking Zelda game...wait for the Switch 2, which should be like an overpowered PS4 portable in terms of graphics.

Exactly, why would you do that? Why would you play the same game at 10x worse graphics on a 50x smaller screen? For gamers like ourselves, we buy several consoles and maybe even PC, so why playing the worse version by far, that on the switch will cost you more money? Makes no sense,

The switch is good as a portable, with dedicated portable games, made to be played on small screens, and also main console Nintendo exclusives.

The switch was more of a home console than a portable one, for starters, 2 hours battery on Zelda will not be very portable, then, the 3ds is still in the market and games still release for it, on the other hand the wiiU has been abandoned years ago.

The switch 2, yeah, when that comes, the ps5 will have at least 5x the power, and developers will have been learning it for years by then. 

I never understand this philosophy of gamers like you who do not want the best they could have, if you could have way more power and graphics, why be happy with much less? Youll be paying a lot of money for the device and games, so why not DEMAND the best you could have?

Personally I'd be happier If Nintendo kept the portable and the home console separate. They could learn from their mistakes with wiiU and have built a fantastic console that could be giving us for the past 3 years the best graphics on 3rd party games, which would attract more gamers, and also more developers.

By the looks of it, come next gen the switch will be back to what Nintendo always does, a dedicated Nintendo exclusives console when it could in fact be the primary gaming device for the hardcore gamers like myself.

Even within the switch itself without comparing with other consoles, I wouldn't play in portable mode, because I already experienced it with a 100inch screen and my 1000dollars sound system. The experience is exponentially better on the large screen with a better controller. Specially when videogames is all about immersion. Maybe people playing on a 32inch TV cant imagine this.

All in all, in my opinion portable consoles should have been done with 3DS as the last one. Because everyone already has a powerful portable in their pockets (mobile phones) without needing to carry an extra device.

Think about it, do you really have 2 or 3 hours to play out of the house? I barely get 30 min free, maybe my break from work which I use to have lunch and a coffee, no time to play for long. And then I finish work, I drive home or go out with friends, and no one is going to go out to socialize and be playing consoles at the bar, I never saw it and I guess will never happen. Other situations out of the house, when I go the gymn, the intensity is too high to concentrate on playing games.

For the quick gaming fix, there's phones with simple games.

You could say witcher 3 is amazing portable, and I would say its horrible, it destroys the experience and greatness of it. I wouldn't want it even for free in portable mode. You can even barely read the menus and options. I'd rather play that in 4K on my 100inch projector with no reflections from the day light, not worrying about battery or ambient noises.