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DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Isn’t there a difference between brand loyal to a company and one to a game? People will love Mario today when they played it as a child in the 80s. Or myself loving Halo but I don’t believe Xbox is lumped in with it. Like I could play it in PC if I wanted. 

Imo Nintendo wins in terms of IP loyalty but Sony wins in company loyalty

I would agree there is a difference.

But when people are loyal to like 4 or 5 different IPs from said company that for me would be loyalty to the brand even more that when people buy playstation isn`t really loyalty to Sony since it sell more 3rd party games than 1st party (it is slowly changing, but it is still much more for 3rd party content).

HoangNhatAnh said:

Talking about a brand, you have to mention every product of that company, suddenly vita don't count? Is there any Sony system could sell even 10 million with just 1st party games and indies/late ports like Wii U?

More games and? Is there any vita games that sold more than 2 million? And if there is, how many of them?

I guess you missed his point on the loyalty.

The fact that WiiU with very few games managed to sell 15M and those games all had humungous  sales ratio show that Nintendo have like 15M diehard fans at least (and we know that there are many Nintendo loyals that didn`t bought WiiU). Plus the drop from PSP to PSVita is quite smaller than Wii to WiiU.

Agree, psp have only 3 games that sold over 5 million, and all of them are GTA, no more no less. Vita doesn't have any game that pass 2 million so definitely a smaller drop. And now, answer me again: If there is a Sony system with just 1st party games and indies/late ports like Wii U, how much could it sell?