PS5 Price Will Likely Be Determined by Xbox Series X Price

[DonFerrari]

sales2099 said:

DonFerrari said:

So since crossgen doesn`t help push consoles but new games help you are basically agreeing that Sony will have a smoothier transition with more people joining PS than Xbox right?

I primarily game on Playstation and playing 1st party. So every game I care being made thinking only about that system to be the best it can be there is very consumer friendly for me. To release elsewhere isn`t really consumer friendly since those weren`t even their consumers in the first place. That is just trying to increase your marketshare.

Nope X360 didn`t and you know it. Launch aligned PS3 was always ahead of X360.

And nope MS wasn`t really successful, you can`t show a single year of profit caused exclusively by Xbox because MS haven`t ever showed those numbers. The department always had other stuff inflating their numbers.

MS losing and giving alot of effort on Xbox original was shutting it down very fast, and on X1 it was like 5 years of only talking and promises to only in the 6th year do something.

Lazy Sony winning on PS2 made PS3 that doesn't look at all to be fruit of lazyness. 

You are here long enough to know it isn't good to call someone fanboy here.

And not being able to gloat from 2013 until now is the reason why you were hidden right?

1st Quote: Im saying Sony will have a forced transition. Because I see the majority of the 100+ million not buying a PS5 in the first year and thus will be left out until they buy one. 

That is how every transition have ever been. Smooth transition is more on the way of steady flow of PS5 customers that keep SW sales with minimal impact. Doesn't have to do with people not buying newer product not being catered, even more because most of the 3rd party titles will have crossgen support for couple of year and the yearly sports games for a long time.

2nd Quote: Your tastes are well and good but hardly thinking of others. Nintendo, PC, Xbox...to release somewhere else is consumer friendly because you take into account other tastes. It seems this is the difference between Sony and MSs approach. Sony locks their experience to their box and now MS views their brand as a service that also has a console. Therefore, the Xbox brand just got a lot more reach potential. Agree to disagree. 

The key here is consumer friendly. Sony have no obligation (or is more consumer friendly) for allowing you to not consume from them.

3rd Quote: I never believed in aligned launch stats. Its just a clever way to save face from being last place for the first time ever. Because trying to make it "fair" is just silly. The gen started in Nov 2005 when 360 released. 360 was profitable since 2008 till end of life cycle. As for Xbox One ya you got me therewe just don't know. Again agree to disagree, I feel PS3 was in fact the fruit of laziness. Overpriced console bluray aside.  Multiplats were inferior then the 360 version, PSN took years to catch up to Live in basic social features, and their games didn't pick up till 2008, and MGS4 wasn't even first party.

About everything on PS3 was of premium quality and thus costed more, they were looking for extravagant solutions with Cell, have no idea how you come to that being laziness. Multiplats being inferior isn't Sony laziness since Sony 1st party looked better than MS ones, PSN took years because Sony had no experience (because if using your example of losing make you try harder, Sony was losing on PSN and that didn't made PSN improve any faster). So since aligning sales being silly you'll claim that X1 done much better than Switch this gen because only on the year it is going to be substituted it passed Xbox?

Mind you that if you compare yearly sales as well (instead of aligned) PS3 won against X360 all but 1 year. So yes you are trying to use the one metric that would have Xbox being ahead for most time, still lost in the end.

Quote 4: I felt the naming was justified. Like me saying that Ryse Son of Rome is a better game then Last of Us 2. Wrong on more then a few levels so yes I believe in using that word when it warrants it. 

Don`t matter what you believe, and yes you could truly believe Ryse is better than TLOU2 without being it. Also there is a difference between claiming a game released even if you think it is mediocre is better than an unreleased game from an unproven developer and what you done with Ryse and the game that is expected to be the best of the gen by many.

Quote 5: I was on Reddit mostly. But I have no issue saying that Xbox 1 botched their vision and limped ever since. Why would I self torture myself defending the console, I like to advocate for it when they are doing right things. Xbox X, BC and Game Pass really turned it around in my eyes.  

And why did you had difficult in being in VGC during that time? Wasn`t it because you couldn`t gloat? Even though now you are saying you have matured over it?