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DonFerrari said:
sales2099 said:

Cross gen has no impact on early adopters whatsoever. Early adopters just want the newest thing and or best version. Cross gen is for the millions that aren’t ready. It simply builds good will. 

Your last sentence has merit, though I can add that Xbox as a service is all about luring people who aren’t interested in console (PC versions) while keeping all console consumer demographics happy. 

So since crossgen doesn`t help push consoles but new games help you are basically agreeing that Sony will have a smoothier transition with more people joining PS than Xbox right?

sales2099 said:

Given how many ways there is to do everything we want and tastes of consumers, locking everything to one platform is a stretch to say what you are saying. 

I primarily game on Playstation and playing 1st party. So every game I care being made thinking only about that system to be the best it can be there is very consumer friendly for me. To release elsewhere isn`t really consumer friendly since those weren`t even their consumers in the first place. That is just trying to increase your marketshare.

sales2099 said:

Ya you have some balls calling me blind when you yourself need a visit to the eye doctor and not aware of it ;) I like tour take on history, given that Nintendo lost with the N64, GameCube, and WiiU...where as 360 beat Sony the entire gen and only cause of Japan did PS3 creep up to 2nd in the final months. Bravo....only someone like you can spin that MS was never successful in the industry, nevermind admit they are successful in their own right despite a terrible misguided 2013 launch. 

Winning breeds laziness and losing breeds more effort. Loving Game Pass and backwards compatibility, and it’ll be years before Sony cares enough to make PS Now and their own BC a priority. Now MS staffed up on a ton of studios. Losing never felt so good :). 

But hey, I remember a time where sales of a gaming console meant more to me then actually playing games. Good times, but I realize that’s not the point of being passionate about gaming. One day you’ll get there too. 

Nope X360 didn`t and you know it. Launch aligned PS3 was always ahead of X360.

And nope MS wasn`t really successful, you can`t show a single year of profit caused exclusively by Xbox because MS haven`t ever showed those numbers. The department always had other stuff inflating their numbers.

MS losing and giving alot of effort on Xbox original was shutting it down very fast, and on X1 it was like 5 years of only talking and promises to only in the 6th year do something.

Lazy Sony winning on PS2 made PS3 that doesn't look at all to be fruit of lazyness. 

sales2099 said:

Careful, your fanboy is showing. It’s unbecoming to compare a mediocre game to ones that aren’t out yet. You deflected the actual point instead of taking the L. Until Sony announces something other then a font, Xbox has more new IPs and games. My the times are starting to change 

You are here long enough to know it isn't good to call someone fanboy here.

sales2099 said:

Hey no worries I didn’t know that. I mean usually when you lose you try harder and when you win you get lazy. Sony tried hard when PS3 was behind and now Ms will do the same next gen. So for the moment, I’m feeling very good about being a Xbox gamer. 

And when PS3 took 2nd, the gen was over so I honestly didn’t care. I was able to gloat from Nov 2005 - August 2013 so I can’t complain. 

Lol indeed. Yes we had to adapt. Now it’s about player counts and overall sales within the Xbox ecosystem. 

And not being able to gloat from 2013 until now is the reason why you were hidden right?

1st Quote: Im saying Sony will have a forced transition. Because I see the majority of the 100+ million not buying a PS5 in the first year and thus will be left out until they buy one. 

2nd Quote: Your tastes are well and good but hardly thinking of others. Nintendo, PC, Xbox...to release somewhere else is consumer friendly because you take into account other tastes. It seems this is the difference between Sony and MSs approach. Sony locks their experience to their box and now MS views their brand as a service that also has a console. Therefore, the Xbox brand just got a lot more reach potential. Agree to disagree. 

3rd Quote: I never believed in aligned launch stats. Its just a clever way to save face from being last place for the first time ever. Because trying to make it "fair" is just silly. The gen started in Nov 2005 when 360 released. 360 was profitable since 2008 till end of life cycle. As for Xbox One ya you got me therewe just don't know. Again agree to disagree, I feel PS3 was in fact the fruit of laziness. Overpriced console bluray aside.  Multiplats were inferior then the 360 version, PSN took years to catch up to Live in basic social features, and their games didn't pick up till 2008, and MGS4 wasn't even first party.

Quote 4: I felt the naming was justified. Like me saying that Ryse Son of Rome is a better game then Last of Us 2. Wrong on more then a few levels so yes I believe in using that word when it warrants it. 

Quote 5: I was on Reddit mostly. But I have no issue saying that Xbox 1 botched their vision and limped ever since. Why would I self torture myself defending the console, I like to advocate for it when they are doing right things. Xbox X, BC and Game Pass really turned it around in my eyes.  



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles.