Rumor: According to Polish insider Cyberpunk 2077 delay because Xbox One (current gen base console)

[Mr Puggsly]

Pemalite said:

Mr Puggsly said:

Right, that's what you expect from PC or even mid gen upgrades over base consoles. Sharper visuals, higher resolution, maybe better effects, etc. However, Cyberpunk looks like an 8th gen game both in design and assets. It kinda just made me think of games like Mass Effect Andromeda, Deus Ex:MD and Battlefield. The lighting seemed better, but assets and environment detail was in the ballpark of stuff like that.

The PC version is pushing effects that the 8th gen consoles can't even think about doing.

The Post-process pipeline is top notch, there is Ray Tracing, there is a level of detail you just don't get on consoles.

The Youtube videos are encoded at 1080P and then upscaled to 4k, with temporal Anti-Aliasing, so the youtube videos aren't really representative of the final product.

Mr Puggsly said:

"The amount of PC's that have specs that are on par or worst than the Xbox One are a minority, so that's irrelevant." I am skeptical about this. Especially when it comes to many laptops. Many of the most popular PC games don't even require X1 power.

A Radeon 7750/7770 is equivalent to a Radeon RX 540/Geforce 1030.

I already threw some statistics prior which showed 40% of PC's match or exceed the Xbox One X's GPU capabilities... The base Xbox One is orders of magnitude inferior to even that.

Even low-end GPU's in notebooks also shit all over the Xbox One these days, like the Geforce MX150, let alone something like the 1050. - Heck even AMD's Ryzen 4000u series integrated graphics will match/beat the Xbox One.

So your skepticism is unwarranted. Console hardware tends to stagnate for it's entire lifestime, PC's do not, have you forgotten that the Xbox One is 2013 hardware and the PC has new 2020 hardware? Common.

But don't take my word for it, feel free to look at the statistics yourself: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/

And you are correct, many PC games don't require X1 power. - Many Xbox One games also don't require Xbox One levels of power. So what's your point?

Mr Puggsly said:

That's a silly point to make. X1X doesn't change resolutions just because it has more power. If a game is designed to run at 720p, then it will be 720p. Your post suggested 720p games are designed for X1X specs, whether that was intended or not.

Silly? Hardly. The point is, depending on game the Xbox One X is a waste of money.

Mr Puggsly said:

Well, if Lockhart does exist I would hope they figure out the right balance. Developers could still optimize for Series X and PS5. Lockhart IDEALLY would simply play the same games with reasonable visuals and good performance. I mean we don't expect the best optimization on X1, that certainly isn't a focus either from most studios.

I would simply prefer Microsoft to release an iterative console half way through the 9th gen console cycle, that way they can take advantage of newer hardware to drive up visuals... Then they can take Scarlett and remove the disk drive or whatever and sell it as a budget device for cost sensitive markets.

I obviously agree there is extra polish you will only see on PC. That isnt exclusive to Cyberpunk. I am saying the game itself looks very 8th gen.

Steam isn't all PC gaming.  It would surprise if Steam is above average in regard to specs.

If you were solely playing games that do not benefit from X1X support, I suppose its a waste of money. Especially if you ignore the faster load times, more stable performance, higher dynamic resolutions, removal of screen tear, etc.

But again, it sounded like you were suggesting there is X1X content designed to only do 720p.

If Series X is gonna be an expensive console at launch, then Lockhart makes sense if it can be the cheapest way to play 9th gen games.

Four years into the 9th gen, MS could still make a mid gen upgrade. But Lockhart would still be a significantly cheaper way to play the same games.