| sethnintendo said: I'm starting to grasp what you are saying but still dont think Nintendo consumers care about top notch graphics. Sure it helps if you can get 3rd party ports but most the blame goes to Wii U marketing and branding team in my book. They went from perfect let's play Wii commercials to terrible commercials. If they didn't have the gamepad they could have enough power to get downgraded ports like the Switch is getting. Problem was that it was such a failure that third parties gave up on it within a year. Switch seems to be getting good 3rd party support granted most are old games but there are some companies porting their new games like Bethesda. Switch is decent upgrade from Wii U but it isn't mind blowing. I still think if they continued supporting the Wii and waited another year or so and dropped the gamepad then they would of had a system that would be close enough for 3rd party ports of PS4/Xbox One games. That's if the system was more successful and even then some third party companies don't even give a damn about that. Just look how much EA hates Nintendo. |
That's the point I'm making to him Wii U was aimed at cores Iwata even says this in his Iwata asks in E3 2011, in his OP he said NS does well because it aims at cores again when really NS is aimed at everyone again and the focus is back on fun software the power game of the Wii U was part of an attempt to win over core audiences when Nintendo consumers for a while now never really cared.
Even if they dropped the gamepad they wouldn't have got ports as if you look at the tech from 2010 and 2012 the's not only a significant difference between the tech available but also the is a significant difference what Nintendo could go for and what Sony and MS could go for. For example lets go with the higher end of claims of what the gamepad cost that would bring it even with the loss the PS4 made with each unit being sold we know Wii U was losing around the same amount due to the investor reports but then you begin to factor in PS4 is 100 quid more while making that loss, so removing the gamepad would make the Wii U break even at the exact same price it had if we're going by the higher speculated cost it added and this is without adding anymore graphical power.
This means any further power would still force a loss again and the type of tech available in 2010 that they could get for that same loss still wouldn't allow them the power to challenge PS4 and X1 so they would have had the same problem regardless only without the gamepad that's why it's a misconception that they could of got a lot more power from dropping the gamepad. The reason for this is HD tech was still very pricey as it was still only 4 years into the HD era when Wii U entered development, if PS3 and 360 level tech were still losing money when manufacturing costs would have dropped by then then it's clear going for any HD tech above that was expensive this was a game Nintendo should never have played as it was a losing battle before it even began.
Switch gets ports because the tech inside it Tegra is from 2016 two years after the PS4/X1 so is more modern and easier to scale down to they were able to get it cheap because well Nvidia had a load of them that they didn't know what to do with they were just collecting dust after costing Nvidia money.
